Rom, the Vacuous Spider

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General Info
hp.jpg blood_echoes.jpg Location Drops
5058 36300 Moonside Lake Kin Coldblood (12)
7263 10975 Lower Pthumeru Chalice Lower Pthumeru Root Chalice
Defenses
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130 130 130 --
blood_DEF.jpg arcane_DEF.jpg fire_atk.jpg bolt_DEF.jpg
130 80 72 45
slow_poison_RES.jpg rapid_poison_RES.jpg VS_beasts.jpg VS_kin.jpg
999 999 No Yes

Rom, the Vacuous Spider (白痴の蜘蛛ロマ Hakuchi no kumo Roma lit. "Roma, the Idiotic Spider") is a Great One Boss in Bloodborne.

Rom, the Vacuous Spider Information

 

Location

  • Moonside Lake, accessed from the Lunarium in Byrgenwerth College.
  • She can also be found in Lower Pthumeru Chalice.
  • She can also be found in Phtumeru Ihyll Root Chalice: glyph 4j4wp4y8 (all offering, 3rd layer, so it's possible to obtain an abyssal gem, the privacy of the chalice is closed). This is very strange: I've played an enormous number of chalices, but this is my first time with her in a Root. She drops nourishing gems.

 

Drops

 

Combat Information

  • Shaman Bone Blades are somewhat effective when used on her spiderlings since it will make the rest of the spiderlings and sometimes Rom herself target the turned spiderling.
  • Minor weakness to Arcane and Fire. Very weak to Bolt.
  • Arcane Damage Reduction Attire such as the Tomb Prospectors' or greater are greatly helpful against Rom's Arcane attacks.
  • When battling alone against Rom and her many spiders, kill the lesser enemies carefully and only attack with melee attacks when there is no danger.
  • Hits to the body deal more damage than hits to the head.
  • If you're planning to summon help, keep in mind that the co-operators will be blocked by the fog until the beckoner has started the fight (i.e. the boss's health bar shows in your screen). Even during the first attempt.
  • Rom takes damage during teleportation, so use strong attacks (R2) for additional damage.
  • Boss teleports 2 times after taking enough damage, also kill the smaller spiders first as they have the ability to catch you in a stunlock that will kill you most of the time. After the first teleporting segment, the boss will start using magic like Arcane meteors from raining down from above and from the ground, run toward the boss to avoid the meteor like one and back off the boss to avoid the ones coming from the ground. At the last stage the boss will start doing moves that can hurt your character, also can explode.
  • Run towards the boss with a left slant, and the ice attack will run along side you, missing completely. An easy strategy is to bait the ice attack, run towards the boss and to the left, hit once, run away, and repeat.
  • If you're playing in Co-op, then take a flank each when you come to attack Rom directly and let loose with fire and bolt attacks. If Rom starts to turn and track one of you, the boss' rear is just as weak as the sides. It is only the head that has the high physical resistance.

 

Attack Name Attack Description & Counter
Ranged Ice Barrage Faces upwards and rains down multiple ice blocks on the player. Run and dodge quickly to avoid these. (Only at <66% HP)
Melee Explosion Points tail in air and wind swirls around it and explodes around her hitting the player in melee range. Move away to avoid this. (Only at <66% HP)
Upward Ice Barrage The boss will curl up and roll on her back, causing giant bricks of ice to come from the water. Evade this attack by running away. You can see exactly where an ice brick will come up, as several blue rings will appear on the water. (Only at <66% HP)
Body Slam Attack The boss will shake her head and her 'tail' once you stand close to it. This attack might be difficult to evade, but if you keep enough distance from Rom's head and 'tail', you can evade the attack more easily. (Only at <33% HP)
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Strategy 1 (Flamesprayer)

  1. Bring the Flamesprayer.
  2. Buff it with Bone Marrow Ash.
  3. Bring a blunt weapon for the small spiders, such as the Tonitrus.
  4. Run towards boss, kill spiders, then get right on the left side on its head and spam Flamesprayer attack while walking left.
  5. If she teleports, repeat above being mindful of her AOE.

 

Strategy 2 (Strength Weapons)

  • Items To Bring: Bolt Paper.
  • Suggested Weapon: Ludwig's Holy Blade (Obtained by finding the Radiant Sword Hunter Badge, located at the end of the optional path up the elevator at Cathedral Ward. The door will open once the Blood-starved Beast  has been killed.)
  • Tonitrus leveled to +5 or above is an excellent weapon for this fight. The minion spiders can be killed in one hit when self buffed and a charge attack against Rom with it self buffed can take off ~700hp (recorded with +6 Tonitrus.)
  • Benefits of Ludwig's Holy Blade: The weapon transformation is essentially a ultra greatsword- but the R2 charge attack packs immense damage and the standard mode is aggressive and fast.


Phase One: Rom is rather helpless in round one, summoning a group of spiders who can easily take a third of your health out or one shot you if they flank your back. Never turn your back to the spiders. The spiders can jump at you and land on their heads, exposing their backsides. Hitting them when they're standing on their heads is an instant kill. Flanking spiders is a one to two hit kill. Taking a spider from the front is somewhat safe, but their heads act as a physical guard. A three hit combo will allow two hits to chip their 'masks' and the third strike will deal the final blow. (A moveset to note: If a spider jumps to the side, it will follow up with a jump forward. If spiders raise their legs, back up and avoid their continuous combo) When most of the spiders are dispatched they'll slowly mimic the bodily movements of Rom, allowing you to flank them easily as they panic in their slow movement. When the spiders are dead, pop a bolt paper and switch to greatsword mode. Charge the R2 attack when you have a good shot at her side, and yes you'll have to lead the shot some. Proceed to keep wailing on the boss until she begins to glow and spin, when she does this you can snap in one to two shots before she completely disappears. Pan your camera until you see her drop in with her spiders again- but this time you need to run to it asap.

Phase Two: Rom will have three new tricks up her sleeve- a pair of arcane magic attacks and an area of effect detonation. The first attack is where she will hail crystal/ice chunks at you from a diagonal, aerial angle. This is indicated when she rears up on her hind legs. The best way to avoid this is to watch Rom and dodge once to the left then once to the right. In Phase 3, dodge three times (alternating sides). The second attack is indicated by an eccentric rolling around motion, where the same hunks of ice/crystal will rise from the ground wherever the ground turns blue. This can be easily avoided if you patrol the outside 'border' of the spider formation. You must dispatch the spiders as you have before while calmly pacing your walking around the ground shards. The aerial volley occurs mostly when you're too far away- but it happens at random in close range. The ground volley rises frequently when dispatching the spiders, but stay calm. Three hit the spiders safely while keeping an eye on the boss- don't take the risk of flanking spiders and wait for them to headbutt for free kills. When the spiders are dispatched and you close in, be wary of its area of effect explosion (similar to Paarll but smaller). Use a Bolt Paper and lead a charged R2 into her side. Spam her with light attack with either mode of the weapon you see fit until she disappears again.

Phase 3: The same rules apply- only Rom will now attempt to charge you or flail around in an attempt to stunlock you for the spiders to follow up on. Rinse and repeat, the Bolt Paper is the saving grace.

Basically, just twat the big spider

Strategy 3 (Tonitrus Strategy)

The Tonitrus is extremely effective against the minion spiders and generally kills them in one hit from the side.

  1. Phase 1 spend most of your time avoiding the minions and chipping out their numbers. One they are all dead focus back on Rom. Self-buff the tonitrus and keep swining, be sure to re-apply the buff every few hits. You should get her to about half health at least this way (I was able to get her to about 25% during phase 1). As Rom begins to fade, be sure to keep swinging to deal as much damage as possible, it is likely you can kill Rom on phase 1 with this strategy depending on blood gems and stat scaling.
  2. Phase 2 the number of spider minions doubles. Be very careful as they do an arcing headbutt attack as it does massive damage, but this gives you free kills on the minions as they stun themselves. Continue to chip away at the minions but keep moving as now Rom is on the aggressive. as long as you keep circling around Rom her arcane boulder missiles shouldn't hit you, but they land pretty close. Once you've cleared out enough minions approach Rom but be careful, for she will do an AoE attack that surrounds her. If you killed all of the minions she will spam this attack. There is a small window between each attack that you have to kill her so watch it for a little bit to figure the timing out and go in for the kill.

 

Strategy 4 (Old Hunter Bone/ Mobility Strategy)

If you have stamina cost-reduction gems on your weapons (preferably) and have the Old Hunter Bone this will be one of the possible go to strategies. 1st Note: Bring a decent amount of Blood Vials and stock up on quicksilver bullets, Blood of Arianna is recommended but not necessary (just to supplement your stamina regen). 2nd Note: For those who use the Old Hunter Bone, do know that the first note greatly applies to you because it requires a taxing amount of quicksilver bullets to use (6 every cast), so you will most likely need to use your own health to supplement your bullet stock which is why the first note exists. Using the Old Hunter Bone allows you to quick step and bypass most of the spiders that act as her defensive wall by eliminating time between rolls and dashes, because you can bypass this wall with great expense to stamina, you have to make sure you have enough time to regen enough stamina to land a charged heavy attack on Rom, preferably with Ludwig's Holy Blade or the Kirkhammer. Rinse and repeat.

  • Pros: You don't really take much damage if you know the ins and outs of your combos and ranges of these weapons since the spiders move relatively slowly in strafe patterns. Relatively quick, probably a good method to use in NG+ if you are trying to redo the fight at the start when Rom is just static on the first encounter. Rom's arcane barrages will not be able to keep up with you ever (unless you are using vials and emergency quicksilver bullet transfusions immediately after each other). You don't have to waste Paper consumables, but you can if you want to make the process faster than need be.
  • Cons: The mobs of spiders will stack and convene in areas where Rom teleports at over time if you initiate all stages. I've seen it where spiders leap directly to Rom once she spawns the second and even third rounds. They will swarm you if you cannot pull this method off quick enough.

 

Strategy 5 (Prevent her from attacking through the whole battle)

Items To Bring: Blunt weapon, Bolt Paper (not necessary, but helps a lot)

  • Phase One: Note that Rom can in fact teleport only one single time or not even once if you manage to interrupt her teleport during any attempt. To do so you need to time correctly a R2 charged atack using a blunt weapon. Confirmed with the Hunter Axe on "Halberd mode", but it most likely works with another heavy weapons like Kirkhammer or Logarius' Wheel. By doing so it's possible to prevent her from summoning a whole wave of spiders and to skip the second and/or the third "atack phase" of the boss, making the fight a lot easier. Although sometimes she summons two waves at once when teleporting after being interrupted, it is possible to break her teleport several times in a row, even preventing her from atacking during the whole battle if you start breaking her teleports from the beginning. As demonstrated on a video at the end of this page, I missed only her last teleport attempt (I didn't manage my stamina properly at the end) while fighting her once again on the Lower Pthumeru Chalice (I remade the Chalice to show the basics of the strategy since it's the fastest way to have a rematch with her).
  • No phase two nor three if you manage to break all her teleports in a row.

 

Strategy 6 (Ranged Bowblade & Monocular)

Items To Bring: Simon's Bowblade, Blood Vials (for Blood Bullet creation), Monocular

  • In all phases the ideal plan is to maneuver to the side of Rom, lock on, and shoot arrows into Rom's side. This will progressively be harder to perform (mini spiders often make locking onto Rom hard). During the later stages, when there are too many spiders to get close you may: 1. Rush in, lock onto Rom, Backstep away and-or to the sides to keep the target lock engaged while shooting arrows (or) 2. Face Rom head on from a distance within a Bowblade's arrow range. Next, use the Monocular to aim just above Rom's head with arrows from your Simon's Bowblade (you can also shoot Rom's belly head on when Rom stands up to do Arcane attacks). This should also work with Monocular + Firearm as well. Keep in mind the mini spiders will be on the move and jump attacking you. Stay alert while using the monocular and dodge mini spider attacks. When using the monocular you can not run, if you see Rom charging up to do an Arcane attack - exit the monocular view and run or roll do dodge these projected attacks.

 

   Strategy 7 (Beasthood Buildup)

 Items To Bring: Any quick weapon ( Preferably the Saw Cleaver or Spear), Bolt Paper, Beast Blood Pellet, Armor that gives the highest amount of Beasthood.

  •      The strategy is simple yet effective. Do not equip a second weapon on your right hand.  Enter the boss room and finish off Rom's underlings and proceed towards Rom's head. Use a Beast Blood Pellet and your bare hands to build up beasthood by pressing r1 once and spamming the transformation attack. ( E.g. R1>L1>L1>L1 etc.). Once your beasthood meter becomes complete, take out your weapon and buff it with Bolt Paper and begin attacking Rom. This strategy can either allow you at best to defeat Rom before she enters Phase Two or Phase Three if you manage to prevent her from teleporting, or at least to leave her with little health left.

 

 

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Notes & Trivia

  • If you die to Rom after her third stage, a glitch which causes her spiderlings to respawn as passive, blinking versions of themselves may occur. Killing these spiderlings will cause Rom to summon fewer when she teleports, making the fight much easier.
  • You can summon Mensis Scholar Damien to help with this fight. However, he occasionally experiences a bug which causes him to become stuck in the building or the nightmare fog, delaying his arrival.
  • In Lower Pthumeru Chalice, you can summon Madman Waller and Tomb Prospector Olek to help with the fight. They serve as a distraction for the spiderlings. However, they have a tendency to attack the spiderlings at the front, and they do not run away from Rom's melee explosion attack.
  • Rom may sometimes become distracted when a player uses either the Music Box or a Shining Coin.
  • During phase 1 there is a brief moment in the music loop where you can hear a young woman giggling.
  • Lore theories can be found under Kin Lore.
  • Rom (白痴の蜘蛛ロマ, Roma, the Idiotic Spider) may have been based on the novel "The Idiot" by Fyodor Dostoevsky.

 

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    • Anonymous

      06 May 2019 01:52  

      If you summon a friend, clear out the little spiders first and then stand on either side of it. If both of you blast it from both sides with the flamesprayer consistently, it won't teleport at all because it's constantly staggered. You can just kill it without dealing with the arcane attacks. We were both laughing hysterically the whole time.

      • Anonymous

        23 Apr 2019 00:14  

        This fight is like the sage fight from DS3, both have annoying magic and tons of enemies. Wish me luck Gamers

        • Anonymous

          10 Apr 2019 20:33  

          Not sure what the heck happened in my game, summoned Damien and went to fight the boss like normal and killed all the little spiders and went after Rom but for some reason not once did she try to teleport which made this fight incredibly easy and the fight was already easy before taking away the teleports and summoning spiders, what triggered this?

          • Anonymous

            10 Mar 2019 01:38  

            There is one item that makes this fight laughable: the Loch Shield. It makes you almost invincible against Rom's arcane attacks. Just kill those little spiders in each phase and watch Rom: when it rolls, simply move away from the range of its attack and when it summons the meteors put up your Loch Shield and run. The most it took me with my 56 VIT on NG+ was about half the bar, but it's easy to walk through the meteors with just like 10% of health reduced. I really struggled with Rom on NG and eventually I killed her with a summon, and I struggled on NG+ having failed many times. Once I thought of using the Loch Shield it was an instant victory. The tricky part is of course you have to get first to the DLC and kill the first boss (and then explore some more) to get the shield, but if you've already done that, then you don't have to worry about Rom. With the shield it's almost guaranteed you'll kill her on the first encounter.

            • Anonymous

              09 Mar 2019 10:52  

              Ok so important feature of this boss fight, the baby spiders do NOT respawn. I assumed they would because of mob spamming in the ds3 greatwood fight and in gravelord nito but they don't, you can just kill all the baby spiders 1 by 1 and then attack rom. good to know because my favorite part of the epic boss fights in soulsborne is methodically picking off trash mobs one by one

              • Anonymous

                27 Feb 2019 09:21  

                Literally just pick off the little spiders one by one and then smash the big one. What's so hard to understand? Have some patience. These games were never about dodging stuff and looking epic, but rather they are about survival. She's the easiest boss in the game (except Micolash) if you adjust your approach by a tiny amount. Hell, even her magic attacks are telegraphed half a minute earlier and easy to dodge.

                • Anonymous

                  20 Feb 2019 05:45  

                  I dislike Rom as it is but when I found him in a chalice dungeon I felt rippedoff. How dare they put what got to be the most useless bossfights in a small dungeon making it impossible to maneuver and dodge his ice attacks. Sorry if I'm salty but it really REALLY pissed me off.

                  • Anonymous

                    18 Feb 2019 01:27  

                    Student set and patience are crucial to this fight. To people complaining that this boss is super unfair, FROM has made much harder bosses before, *cough* ornsteinandsmoughnamelesskingpursuer *cough* So stop whining and learn the game better, play better, and be patient. Patience is the key in every soulsborne game I've played (which is all of them).

                    • Anonymous

                      06 Jan 2019 20:45  

                      it might be a little bit better if it wasn't a ****ing gank fight that punishes you for going after the actual ****ing boss

                      • Anonymous

                        27 Dec 2018 15:20  

                        The little spiders can drop 1 Madman's Knowledge. Drop rate seems low, as I got only 2 while fighting Rom for like 3 hours, each time killing spiders in phase 1. Dunno if anybody else mentioned it yet, but well, here we are

                        • Anonymous

                          04 Dec 2018 07:58  

                          Rom, the Byrgenwerth spider that hides all manner of ritual secrets. Rom... ROM... Read-Only Memory? “Data stored in ROM can only be modified slowly, with difficulty, or not at all.” No wonder Willem entrusted her with the secret. Homegirl’s practically got photographic memory, even if she doesn’t know what to do with it. Unlocking it is half the challenge, but then the Hunter has to try and rewrite history—or perhaps to protect it from what could have been, and to bury the temptation of the secret once again?

                          • Anonymous

                            29 Nov 2018 07:56  

                            I honestly don't understand what FROM has going through their mind when they make bosses like this. It's entirely possible to defeat, but absolutely nothing about this fight is enjoyable. I beat it on my second try after being ass-blasted by about 30 spiders, and although it was pretty easy, it was honestly just a terrible experience. Why would they make a boss like this? Do they not want their players to have fun? Do they think that, if they make something tedious, and annoying, and borderline artificially difficult, that it'll be a good experience for the player? It's honestly confusing, man. The only redeeming factor of this fight was the relief I felt after I beat it; I was glad that I wouldn't have to fight it again. In a game as well-made and enjoyable as Bloodborne, they have to go and contrast the beauty by adding some bull*****like this. Not mentioning the countless enemies that are cheesily placed to jump on you from behind as you go to pick up an item, or trap you in a corner and 3v1 you, or when your character is unable to dodge because you made the mistake of getting stuck on a mis-placed rock, it seems like FROM likes to torture their players with blatantly annoying bull*****that's easily countered by dying, and, after returning to the area, not making the same mistake twice. Sorry for the rant but holy*****, some aspects of the Soulsborne series are absolutely cancerous. I think I need to take a break for a little while, lol.

                            • 10 Nov 2018 00:57  

                              any tips for her? this is my first souls game so i'm not very experienced in terms of making builds and just skill in general. i'm running a Whirligig Saw

                              • Anonymous

                                26 Oct 2018 04:25  

                                I know this is a little late but this is what I used for Rom on NG++ Get a fast weapon, but it has to be buffable (I used a +8 Rakuyo wich honestly had low damage but it did just fine) and a strong weapon to kill the spiders in 1 hit (I used Chikage). Kill all the spiders around Rom until she is the only one left. Next, get you fast weapon, eat a Beast-Blood pellet, buff your weapon with bolt papers and spam-attack the ***** out of her. Using this I was able to simply skip phase 2 and went directly to phase 3 with her only having a little bit of health. I she isn't dead, you can play safe killing all the spiders or just rush her. I also used full Choir set so I could focus on killing spiders rather than dodging Rom's attacks.

                                • Anonymous

                                  19 Oct 2018 07:34  

                                  I knew I shouldn't have trusted FromSoft. "KNOW WHAT GUYS, WE HAVE TO ***** WITH OUR PLAYERS ONCE MORE. LET'S MAKE A BOSS A FREAKING SPIDER! THAT WAY ANYONE WITH ARACHNIPHOBIA CAN'T BEAT IT."

                                  • Anonymous

                                    27 Jul 2018 22:12  

                                    wow I just died on her by LITERALLY the last spider left while she had like 10 HP. Should I just quit my BB career now?

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