Pthumerian Descendant

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General Info
hp.jpg blood_echoes.jpg Location Drops
3437 4147 Central Pthumeru Chalice Lower Pthumeru Chalice, Cold blood gem (3)
16824 100474 Great Pthumeru Ihyll Chalice Tempering Damp Blood Gem (6), Cursed Cold (5)
Defenses
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114 110 110 --
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110 52 60 154
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250 180 No No

Pthumerian Descendant (トゥメル人の末裔 Toumeru hito no matsuei lit. "Pthumerian Descendant") is a Boss in Bloodborne.

Pthumerian Descendant Information


The Descendant is a fast and relentless attacker that can be very difficult at high lvl depths. They may appear in any chalice dungeon and are a good source of Cold Blood Gems.

Locations

 

Combat Information

  • Weakest to Arcane; weak to Fire Damage
  • Defeat Pthumerian Descendant through chain staggering. Simply lock onto him and back-peddle away. Eventually he will quick step towards you to close the distance; blast him with your blunderbuss at this point, this will stagger him and you'll be able to easily dispatch him with Visceral Attacks. The timing seems to be fairly loose, but if you fail the timing the blast will still cause him to recoil and let you backstep away to bait him into following once more. Once he hits phase two he'll pull out a second Shotel and become more aggressive, including running towards you. Just backstep to keep enough distance to bait him into quickstepping towards you and follow the same strategy.
  • Once staggered, he dodges away from you. To prevent this, keep him against the walls and he will have nowhere to retreat.
  • The Combination of Lead Elixir (anti-stagger) and Beast Roar (will knock him to the ground if out of stamina or at low hp) ensuring an easy win.
  • When in 50% health he roars and begins to separate his one blade into two. Get behind him, charge R2 attack and get a chance to backstab him. It can also cancel his separation attempt and he will try it again, giving you another opportunity to backstab him.
  • If you have a fast and powerful weapon, with high damage per second, you can try to get him standing near a wall to stop his retreat and spam R1 when he is in 60% health. That way you can damage him to 50% so he begins the blade separation while under your heavy slashing. A good way to do high damage fast.
  • For an Arcane build, use gloves to stagger while getting close to deal damage. Repeat until dead.
  • Transformed Axe L2 (sweep attack) is very effective just after dodging behind him.

 

 

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One bladed moveset

Attack Name Attack Description & Counter
Rushing attack Often the first attack he does. If you are far away he quicksteps near you and swings his sword 1-4 times. The first attack is hard to parry and it depends on your distance but try firing your pistol immediately when you see him lifting his hand while rushing towards you. Mostly dodging towards him and endind up behind him is the best strategy.
Charge attack Charges a heavy slash by lifting his left hand slowly up, then yanking it fastly behind his head and then immediately slashing hard and continues with 1-2 fast and powerfull following slashes. First slash is easy to parry.
To counter shot fire pistol just before the charge is finished and the first slash starts, precisely when the fast yank happens. Fire blunderbuss little sooner, more precisely when the arm is lifted up but the yank has not started yet.
Blade toss Throws his blade at you and it boomerangs back to him. Blade can go through obstacles and walls. Mostly dodge left or right. Shooting him staggers him cancelling the attack and makes the flying blade teleport back to his hands safely not hurting you.
Left to right swing +combo Starts from lifting his left hand up and slashing to his low right, then lifts his hand to his upper right and slashes to upper left. If you are close he follows with 1-2 fast slashes. He can stop after first slash if you are far away. To get a chance to hit back walk far enough to avoid the first slash and dodge step the second to his left side (your right) to get behind him. This way he stops slashing and you get a very good opening for attacks. To get a parry fire your pistol after the first slash.
Right to left + combo Starts from lifting his left hand up to his right side and slashing to his upper left, and then slashes 1-3 times. Harder to parry since the first strike is faster than in "left to right" move so there is less time to react to the following swing. Often dodging back, away from him, is the best strategy.
Recovering slash After getting visceral attacked Descendant gets slowly up from the floor and takes a fast slash towards you instead of quickstepping away. Chances of a slash is high if you are close to him or he is near walls and can't quickstep away. This is actually a safe opportunity to try to parry him. After visceral attact get only a little closer to him so that the slash can't reach you and keep an eye on his right hand while he is getting up. Hand makes a U-turn like movement during getting up animation. Fire your pistol just before the U-turn is finished. Timing is difficult but if you are far enough there is no downside in failure since he either quicksteps away or the slash can't reach you.
Blade separation When in 50% health he quicksteps away from you, holds his blade high and splits it to two blades with a long shout starting the second phase of the fight. Keep an eye on his health bar. After you damage him under 50% health stay near him. When he quicksteps away run towards him (he won't attack) and get behind him with a quick weapon while he roars. Hold R2 for a charge attack and get a backstab chance. If done fast enough you can interrupt the separation and he has to do it again after visceral attack.

Two Blade moveset

Attack Name Attack Description & Counter
Rushing attack About the same attack as one bladed rush attack. Don't try to parry. It is possible but extremely risky.
Blade toss Tosses his blades more often than in first phase and distance to trigger the toss is shorter. Throws one or both blades. Safest direction to dodge is your left or if you are far enough straight away from him.
Jumping attack If you are far away from him he can jump towards you and make an X -shaped slash with his swords when he lands. Just dodge away or behind him when you think he is about to land.
Two bladed golf swing
to smash and X -slash
Lowers his both blades fast to his right side and then swings them up and left side of him and continues with slowly starting heavy two blade smash and heavy X -shaped two blade slash.
When you see his both hands high in his left side while he charges the smash attack fire pistol to get the counter shot of the following slash. Works when his both hands go up together and not slightly in turns which is another type of attack.
Faster golf swing and smash If you are close to him he can do slightly faster golf swing with slightly sooner starting smash and no X -slash. Parry timing is shorter and very difficult so dodging away or staying little farther away from him to not to trigger this move helps.
One-two + one-two combo Swings his swords side to side in turns 1-4 times. First blade goes up and second one goes horizontally left or right and then he repeats.
2 swings and an X -slash Swings both of his blades up to his right, then to his left and then finishes with the X -shaped slash. Fire pistol when he is charging the X -slash. Rather easy parry if you identify the combo soon enough.

 

Strategy 1 (Quick Attacks)

During the fight have a quick weapon (Blade of Mercy, Saw Cleaver, etc.) now dodge his attacks by going to his right side and attack him once or twice, he should then back off giving you breathing room however there is a uncommon chance he will simply turn towards you and attack you, so its important after you attack him to back-step away. His second stage is tricky, only attack when you know for sure he won't go into a combo attack, keep your distance and shoot him to get a visceral attack. Continue this until victory.

Strategy 2 (Parry Master)

In the first phase keep the distance between you so short that the first attack of a combo won't hit you but the secound would. Concentrate only on two of his attacks: charge attack and left to right + combo. Those are the easiest to parry (timings in the attack description above). Dodge rest. If the distance between you are too long he quicksteps towards you before starting to attack. When so always dodge away and don't try to countershot. Try to parry only when he begins an attack from walking animation.

In the second phase keep a sligthly longer distance to avoid faster version of golfswing but not too much since he tosses his blades now more often than before. Concentrate to parry only his slower smash after golfswing and the X -shaped slash after 2 swing combo. Also one-two combo is punishable if you manage to stay close enough to trigger him to continue after first one-two. Important: stay close! If you let him get far away his wider variety of long range attacks is much more dangerous than in phase one. Also getting countershots now is also more difficult.

Strategy 3 (Executioner's Gloves Stunlock)

This strategy is for builds with 20 arc, and can be used to effectively keep Descendant on the defensive for the entire fight. Slash your wrists for blood bullets, then vial up. Be cautious in your timing, as Descendant likes to use his throwing attack before you can heal. Wait until he dodges, then as his animation ends, cast the Executioner's Gloves. Immediately sprint toward him and perform a sprinting R2, followed by R1. The sprinting R2 will stagger Descendant, guaranteeing the R1 to connect on a quick weapon (if he dodges backward instead of to the side, your followup will connect on any weapon). Back away and be prepared to dodge in case he counters, but most often he will dodge away. If he dodges, immediately repeat the assault, then get some distance and refill your blood bullets. If Descendant successfully hits you while you are casting, don't panic: he will still be stunlocked when the skulls connect. Take advantage of this to regain by attacking, then get some distance and heal. This strategy can be mixed with Strategy 2 with a Blood Rapture or Oerdon Writhe rune.

 

Notes & Trivia

  • Is something called "Elder" but uses the descendant weapons. "Elder" has 16511 HP in FRC Ihyll/Loran/Isz
  • This Boss can also be a regular enemy in chalice dungeons.(possibly as a result of using a fetid or rotted offering)

 

Gallery

 

Descendant Bird of Prey

Descendant No Face Descendant Walk Descendant Splatter Descendant Spin

 

 




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    • Anonymous

      Pro tip:

      The columns are essential to the fight. They will not block his attacks, but they will block your camera.

      • Anonymous

        Used blunderbluss and was able to easily riptose him. Very annoying spammer so it’s a high risk high reward kind of deal.

        • Anonymous

          Has way too much poise for such a scum-sucking r1 spammer!! By parrying becomes a joke. Can't for the life of me dodge those throwing attacks and fact that they clip through pretty much anything is pure bs. Simply a horrendously designed boss.

          • Anonymous

            Cheese mode: amygdala arm and stay behind columns - not necessary for the first phase - plus the speed of the charged attack usually matches his advancing/walking speed. Probably other flail weapon are good too

            • Anonymous

              Augur+L2+R2 on Holy Moonlight greatsword seems to be working for me, knock him down, visceral if you get lucky, then charge one of the attacks up. If you can avoid getting one shot by his jump attack or killed by the camera.

              • Anonymous

                I just beat this dude today. Get the communion runes for max blood vials and the old hunter bone to keep on healing and spamming the bone. Get the saw/cleaver blades cuz you can hit fast with them and run. Lvl 9 at the very least with all attack gems. Don't worry about stage 2 cuz in his stage 2, you can see when he's about to hit. All souls games have had input delay. Even though bloodborne's pretty crisp, it's still there. Not just that, the time to get out of a stunlock is delayed too. This dude exploits all of them and that's why he kills you so easily so the bone, combined with your reflexes and fast weapons is gonna help you even the playing field. Forget parrying. His attacks start and end before you can get your hand up to shoot him. If he's spamming, you spam too. This is a very badly designed boss made to specifically exploit the shortcomings the souls game mechanics have had coupled with the fact on how you can't guard. Try getting op before fighting this boss. No shame in getting stronger to even the playing field. My pride kicked in that's why I had to beat him with weaker weapons but if anyone reading this can get a maxed out weapon with better gems, go do it and follow my procedure. You'll beat him in no time. You're a hunter after all. Can't be a hunter if you can't think outside the box to hunt your preys

                • Anonymous

                  I just beat this dude today. Get the communion runes for max blood vials and the old hunter bone to keep on healing and spamming the bone. Get the saw/cleaver blades cuz you can hit fast with them and run. Lvl 9 at the very least with all attack gems. Don't worry about stage 2 cuz in his stage 2, you can see when he's about to hit. All souls games have had input delay. Even though bloodborne's pretty crisp, it's still there. Not just that, the time to get out of a stunlock is delayed too. This dude exploits all of them and that's why he kills you so easily so the bone, combined with your reflexes and fast weapons is gonna help you even the playing field. Forget parrying. His attacks start and end before you can get your hand up to shoot him. If he's spamming, you spam too. This is a very badly designed boss made to specifically exploit the shortcomings the souls game mechanics have had coupled with the fact on how you can't guard. Try getting op before fighting this boss. No shame in getting stronger to even the playing field. My pride kicked in that's why I had to beat him with weaker weapons but if anyone reading this can get a maxed out weapon with better gems, go do it and follow my procedure. You'll beat him in no time. You're a hunter after all. Can't be a hunter if you can't think outside the box to hunt your preys

                  • Anonymous

                    There was someone else, who's comment I can't find now, but it is an incredible strategy. This was specifically for the Great Pthumeru Ihyll version of him but will work elsewhere. This is based around Ludwig's Holy Blade's transformed mode and the Blunderbuss. Phase 1: Wait until he starts to attack and dodge around him to your right (his left), then immediately do an L2 attack followed right away by an R1. If done right, both your attacks will hit and he will jump away. Repeat until Phase 2. Phase 2: Wait until he begins an attack from a walking start and parry him just as he begins the attack. If timed right you'll be able to get a Visceral. Repeat until dead. This strategy allowed me to beat him the very first time I tried it. Huge props to the guy who came up with it. Also, I would HIGHLY recommend equipping the Clawmark Rune, plus Lake and Great Lake. Good luck!

                    • Anonymous

                      just realized something and I'm not quite sure if its intentional
                      Pthumeria, the location of the first chalice dungeons, is pronounced toom-aria... "tomb area" which is exactly what it is, a tomb area
                      fromsoft humor at it again

                      • Anonymous

                        Perfect demonstration of incompetent design. This boss is simply impossible to defeat, period. His attacks are way too fast, have way too much range, he spams them indefinitely and each of them heavily staggers you, he hits like a truck and his attacks pass through walls; they are next to impossible to dodge, and anyway, dodging one attack still leaves you wide open for the next one who is coming right next.
                        Impossible to move away from him as he will either throw his weapon at you, which is almost impossible to dodge, and hit like a truck, and also goes through walls; or he will simply jump straight at you and hit you before you can even react.
                        Also, did I mention that every single of his attacks are basically AOE's?

                        You can't either get close to him because as soon as you manage to land a hit on him, he will immediately jump away from your reach, and of course he is immune to staggering, and of course, trying to close the distance between you will only lead to you be killed by everything I mentioned above.

                        You can counter-attack by shooting at him, leaving him open for an evisceration attack, but do not count on it, because it actually almost never works, and most of the time, he will simply keep doing his combo, or even the bullets won't even damage hit despite them clearly connecting.

                        This enemy is not in any way, even remotely close to being something you could call fair, this boss has nothing fair in his design, it is nothing but a ridiculous blatantly overpowered enemy with no depth or anything ressembling competent concept.

                        • Anonymous

                          **** this guy for the record but, The Best strategy I've found for defeating him is a quick weapon like Rakuyo or Blades of Mercy, lots of dodging, not going for parry since the window is non existant, and being very, very slow and methodical with your hits. Only take them when you know you can.

                          • Anonymous

                            For anyone who's having a lot of trouble with the Ihyll Chalice version, you can actually hide behind the lantern statues lining the room and he will attempt to use his combo into the statue. Just angle him correctly and charge up a strong attack with something like an LHS to poke through it. He will move sideways from time to time so you need to re-position and his throwing attack still hits, but this works consistently.

                            It's an enjoyable boss fight though and learning the parry timings is fun, worth doing without cheesing.

                            • Anonymous

                              Cheapest boss in all From Soft games, his boomerang shotels ignore walls, pillars, even hitting you through the upper level floor. Hard but fair my ass.

                              • Anonymous

                                I didn't see it mentioned nor do I know if this is even being updated still but, in the room below where the Chime Maiden is there is a summon sign for Tomb Prospector Olek. If it was mentioned then I apologize for being blind, if not then I hope it helps people having trouble with the boss in Central.

                                • Anonymous

                                  Mm, just love being trapped in a small room with limited mobility and some camera issues with an R1-spamming boss on crack, who can and WILL two-shot a 40 vit character by casually throwing his shotels through several solid pillars, any time he pleases. Dude's like Champy but in a small area with severe clipping issues and more range.

                                  Thank you Miyazaki, couldn't have asked for better.

                                  • Anonymous

                                    His jumping attack with the two blades can always be punished with a single attack that makes him jump backwards afterwards. So in Phase 2 this is a 100% safe method

                                    • Anonymous

                                      I feel the need to agree with the guy who mentioned using the Augur of Ebriatas. That thing trivialized this boss for me. Even if you haven't put a ton into Arcane, the ability to dodge behind him and set up a visceral is amazing. Maybe it's just me but it was a game changer.

                                      • Anonymous

                                        The last time I played, I defeated this chap by visceral attacking + backstabbing him before he could snap his blades apart. If you can get to him in time to do this, he will do literally nothing except back step and try to transition to phase 2 over and over again. Easy!

                                        • Anonymous

                                          Idk if his later fight is the same as the one in the Central Pthemeru Chalice, but if it is...

                                          I found that the easiest way to deal with him is to learn the timing of his lunges, and dodge towards his left (your right) when he lunges for you in 1st phase. Attack immediately out of dodge for however many hits you can land. Rinse and repeat until he enters phase 2... And then reverse direction; dodge to his right (your left) and keep attacking out of dodge.

                                          If you have fire paper, it helps a lot too.

                                          • Anonymous

                                            I had a tough time trying to time my shots to parry him till I tried augur. Then he almost never left the ground and I eviscerated him at least 5 times.

                                            • Anonymous

                                              Transformed HMS and Augur was the only way I could eventually beat him. R1 seems to stagger him nicely, so just do 2xR1 and then Augur. Lot of the times he will dodge and you will miss the Augur, but if it lands it will help keep him away, I was also able to get 2 parries this way because he stepped right into my Augur. Be sure to quickstep for the Visceral because the window is kinda short

                                              He definitely gave me the most trouble out of all the bosses (so far)

                                              • Anonymous

                                                Makes total sense that his f*cking shotel can just phase through the pillars in the hallway and still hit me . Get it together fromsoft

                                                • Anonymous

                                                  Small point of interest about this fellow - Beast Roar does very little to him. Usually a good tool against fast humanoids to get some breathing space, but he shrugs it off like it's nothing.

                                                  • Anonymous

                                                    Ahh i love this Boss design , one thing to mention here ( The other Variant of this Boss the Pthumerian Elder is much tougher as an overall Fight , and here's why ). The Pthumerian Descendant is rather a Combo-Wombo Boss... Meaning he can Kill you if you haven't paid close attention or haven't dodged/sidestepped in-time. But the thing is ( This Boss is rather easy & can be exploited much easier ).... With his Twin Sickles/Shotels , he tends to start up his Combo Animation which is a great Hint to Parry him with any Firearms honestly , for insane good Visceral Attack ( Also when he starts Phase 2 roar , you can Back Stab him for a free Visceral Aswell )... However , the other Variant the Elder who wields a Flaming Polearm Stick with a Flaming Crossbow is more of a Tanky & Harder to Kill ( The Elder version of this Boss has longer reaching attack with also Fire Damage , and he also spams his Fire Bolts from his Flaming Crossbow making him even harder to Parry than this counterpart twin Shotel variant the "Pthumerian Descendant" ). That's interesting to know , because when i fought this Elder variant i was confused to why the name is changed... It turned out this Elder version uses different Weapon , and also might've more HP than the Descendant aswell as a Boss that it lol.

                                                    • Anonymous

                                                      Phase 1: Transformed Holy Blade. Dodge forward and to his left when he attacks, one L2 then one R1 attack and back off. Phase 2: Take pistol out and wait for him to start an attack chain and go for the parry. Took almost no damage phase 1 doing this, then phase 2 took a few parries and a couple extra hits to take him down. Still had a decent amount of vials left afterwards. If he throws his swords jump 2-3 times sideways.

                                                      • Anonymous

                                                        This is the boss that taught me the importance of parrying. Before that I spent hours just trying to dodge away but that doesn't work with this guy.

                                                        • Anonymous

                                                          Something odd just happened to me. I am currently in a FRC Isz Dungeon and this dude showed up as the second layer boss but his Health bar showed Pthumerian Elder. I don't know if it is a translation thing (My game is German but I never had something like that before) or just a weird Glitch that it was not loading the correct Boss or Name but it clearly said Pthumerian Elder instead of Descendand. It may not be the biggest deal but things like these interest me. Has anyone else experienced this issue? And if you did in which language.

                                                          • Anonymous

                                                            Got me a while but I found the best strategy is to just buff you with evisceration runes (both healing and damage) and +4 bullets . Before getting in slice wrists (+5 bullets) and heal. Now once in start stagger it with ludwig rifle (I have it at +4 more range than the pistol) eviscerate rinse and repeat Until second phase. As soon as he almost crap himself splitting the schyte in two stand behind him and spam augur of ebrietas and eviscerate it. Repeat as soon as he stand up and he’s about to do any action. This should either stagger it opening for visceral or damage him quite good. Avoid attacks as much as you can and try to spam the tentacle as soon as he begin attacking you. You should have enough bullets to end him

                                                            • Anonymous

                                                              I HATE him. Who the hell decided that he should be able to use a PROJECTILE through walls? I swear, do FROM employees even play their games?

                                                              • Anonymous

                                                                I have almost given up the entire game because of this boss. Four days of trying, and I absolutely cannot get the parrying right. Honestly, I despise this thing.

                                                                • Anonymous

                                                                  He sure can run fast for an old guy. He could be behind a pillar and then next moment is running at you full speed. There's no tell, no warm up, it's 0 to 60 humph in a split second followed by a forward lunge with large range. I'm attempting this fight in Ihyll at BL4 in near death mode (hyper mode) but it may be beyond my skills :-\

                                                                  • Anonymous

                                                                    Part of the psychological problem I have fighting this boss is that I know if I defeat him then the next boss is the headless bloodletting beast which is even harder. It has tons of HP and awkward movement in a small room. I must enjoy getting killed repeatedly by pillar clipping boomerangs. Talking of which..... Stay close to prevent him throwing it doesn't always work. And sometimes he jumps away, behind a pillar, and then throws it. Cheat!

                                                                    • Anonymous

                                                                      Don't like how he can still throw his weapon in phase 2. All the time it took to split he can instantly put it back together, throw it and have split again? No, not fair. I'm having a real nightmare with this dude at BL4 (again, I've done it once before).

                                                                      • Anonymous

                                                                        I'm liike 95% sure that the sound of him transitioning into second phase ( The Shwing of his blades) is also used in Sekiro)

                                                                        • this boss seems pretty "fair" except for the fact that he appears to know that his thrown attack clips through the pillars, and intentionally abuses this gltich.

                                                                          • Anonymous

                                                                            Because he tries to be stylish in phase 2 I actually find it easier to parry him compared to the first phase

                                                                            • Anonymous

                                                                              Homeboy robbed me of my victory: I got the fight ending parry but my attack went straight through him. Wasn't too close, wasn't too far, i was in the position i parried him the rest of the fight, but my untransformed threaded cane whiffed right through without ANY damage or visceral. After he got up, he followed with a double boomerang (FRC, ded). Could be latency or bugs or a million things but that was the cheapest piece of***** I've ever faught

                                                                              • Anonymous

                                                                                This guy was driving me insane in Ihyll until I gave up trying to parry and started using those bullets for R2 and L2 with transformed Holy Moonlight Sword + Augur of Ebrietas. Lead Elixir also helps making sure you don't get interrupted (first time ever I used it), though it isn't necessary. Increased Rally runes help since you won't have many oportunities to heal and you should keep close to him. Str + Arcane build. I think a heavy weapon is mandatory to interrupt his attacks..

                                                                                • Anonymous

                                                                                  i had to fight this dude on a root f/r/c that i created, it was a nightmare.... the guy two shoted me. anyway, why do the blades pass thro the pillars?hmmmm......D E E P E S T L O R E

                                                                                  • Anonymous

                                                                                    ya know, I never really complain about boss mechanics, but this guy is the *****ing worst on last pthumeru chalice

                                                                                    • Anonymous

                                                                                      Get him behind a pillar (if you get one in the room) and spam the Kos L2 arcane attack. It will hit him through the pillar and he'll carry on humggg hummging away without being able to hit you, even with his boomerang attack.

                                                                                      • Anonymous

                                                                                        L2 of the holy moonlight sword is much more effective per bullet than parrying. You'll poise through one of his hits and either stagger or send him flying, plus the arcane dmg hits hard

                                                                                        • Anonymous

                                                                                          This is how my friend died to the boss: My friend started making fun of the boss because each time it would attack it would make a "Humph" sound effect. My friend start to mimic the sound when he would attack in act of mockery. One thing leads to another and they're both attacking and more importantly Humphing each other. Laughing hysterically and unable to see the screen clearly he dies with a all powerful Humph to his characters head.Fun times.

                                                                                          • Anonymous

                                                                                            Looking at his defenses and how easy he is to stagger, Wheel with rapid poison and flat arc might be a fairly good strategy.

                                                                                            • Anonymous

                                                                                              Why even mention parrying his forward quickstep? He SELDOM ever does this and when he does, it's when you're not expecting it and is incredibly hard to parry. Fighting him normally works much better.

                                                                                              • Anonymous

                                                                                                in my experience parry fishing wasn't really worth it. just quickstep upper right for all of his attacks, R1 him a couple times, then backstab chain while he's trying to do his phase 2 transformation. trying to parry got me killed more often than not (or I'd run out of bullets)

                                                                                                • Anonymous

                                                                                                  Easy strategy: When he starts the swing combo take one backstep and shoot directly after the backstep. This will almost always stagger him for a visceral. Works for both his one bladed and two bladed movesets.

                                                                                                  • Anonymous

                                                                                                    I had a harder time with this guy than any other boss, including Orphan and the Defiled chalice bosses. After 10 deaths I got pissed off enough to cheese him with lead elixirs. In my defense, I really wanted the plat trophy and wanted to get past him asap. Now that I have 100% of the trophies, I think I'll recreate the chalice and try to beat him fairly. Just thinking about it makes my head hurt though.

                                                                                                    • Anonymous

                                                                                                      I beat the lesser version of him with at level 26 w +6 hunter axe. Trying to see how far I can get through dungeons at lower levels.. anyhow, you actually Can dodge towards him. He jumps past you and you can hit his bum. Stage 2 is a but more iffy

                                                                                                      • Anonymous

                                                                                                        The Arcane Kill. This is a fast fight. I prefer to do it with no sound on. I wore Bone Ash set, a fire saw cleaver, and with a high arcane build, with +hp tune, +stamina tune and a +4 bullets rune. I had 2 bullets at the end, and I of course used the blood bullet +5 thing to extend my arcane power. I maxed arcane, that’s just fun anyway. I used black eye sky for the first half of the fight. You have to get into the dodging rhythm to make it under his strokes and get behind him for a few quick hits using a small stamina quick weapon. You have to learn the exact distance his shotel / half moon shaped weapon goes and the best time to hit him with a spell is also when you would parry him, in the middle of his golf swing. You have to learn the moments where you can hit him with multiple hits in a row. You also have to keep moving and getting away from him, I use the outsides exclusively, always moving sometimes running. If you get lucky through your dodges, you can get him stuck in a corner or the wall as a way to trap him and get a bunch of strokes in. And then I would do two launches of the executioner gloves, blood bullet +5, blood vial, dodge, position yourself and launch again. I led him to the open area with the raised platform for this, less obstacles for the gloves.

                                                                                                        • Anonymous

                                                                                                          Top tier boss. 10/10. ****ing love this guy. I wish every boss could be him. Think you got that parry? Think again. Think the environment will help you? Prepare to get stuck on a pillar and one shot, prepare for that boomerang. For someone that weak to arcane he’s got some ****ing magic going on in that **** right there.

                                                                                                          • Anonymous

                                                                                                            since i am just going for the Yharnam trophy, i don't mind doing it dirty: if you are have enough vit and damage, just two-hand a heavy weapon, infuse arcane/fire, lead elixir, charge R2, heal, charge R2, heal, loop. just remember to reapply your lead and you have an easy kill

                                                                                                            • Anonymous

                                                                                                              Arcane builds can beat him pretty easily by spamming augur since he runs right at you. It's hard to time so you'll probably only get a visceral 1 out of 4 times (not that arcane builds do much visc. damage anyways), but you'll be doing steady damage and staggering/knocking him down a lot.

                                                                                                              • Anonymous

                                                                                                                Oh Boomerang Boi,.. In Ihyll the arena is a nightmare to deal with, especially when it locks you off him during combat, not to mention his Boomerang Blade BS clips through the walls and is a load of crap. Boomerang Boi here is one of the most annoying bosses in Bloodborne, only topped by the Abhorrent Beast, Gascoigne and the Orphan of Kos, at least the Orphan and Gascoigne can be effectively parried, the Abhorrent Beast can be Cheesed but this guy is a massive headache, and when the arena gets you killed you know you're in for fun times ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

                                                                                                                • Anonymous

                                                                                                                  Number one and possibly only way to ever beat this spammer: Try to parry during combos, and just hope you are lucky to atcually get the parry to work. No skill required in this fight, just luck with getting the parries. Just tried it and sometime i timed it PERFECTLY and he just comboed me to death either way. 3rd try i killed him by just backing away/backstepping after baiting him to attack, tried to parry, and simply got lucky...worst boss of all time, not even joking! But hole...

                                                                                                                  • Anonymous

                                                                                                                    This prick is a nightmare in a cursed dungeon. If anyone is struggling with him, try the transformed Holy Moonlight Sword, hit him once max twice, and R2 his ass during the long combos from a safe distance. Also hmph hmph hmph hmph hmph.

                                                                                                                    • Anonymous

                                                                                                                      What really helped me with this fight: 1. DO NOT fight around the columns. Stick to one of the larger areas. 2. Don't hit him twice. Hit and back off after dodging. 3. When he's right before half health, know he's about to split his weapon. Get behind and charge a visceral. He probably won't even finish the weapon split so he'll try it again, and that's another free visceral. I managed 3 in a row on my first victory. GOOD LUCK!

                                                                                                                      • Anonymous

                                                                                                                        If anyone is having a particularly hard time, a strategy that's not above that works for me is to not try to parry him. At all. What you want to do is learn to dodge his attacks and always dodge towards him, trying to get behind him. Depending on the attack, after you get behind him, you could have enough time to hit once and run, or you could have enough time to backstab and riposte. This is by no means an EASY strategy, but if you get it down, it becomes a consistant strategy.

                                                                                                                        • Anonymous

                                                                                                                          I gotta say this boss is actual hell on earth to deal with especially in a cursed dungeon in his transformed state his double shotel throw will one shot you with stun and they come out hella fast I was able to beat him by running a risky Beasthood and HA+10 style by dodging his hits during his first phase and right after connecting a heavy attack that staggers him and usually makes him retreat I kept reparing this until he reach his transformed stage and after getting the backstab off I just spam the transform attack it does a solid 3k damage if I have my Beasthood about half way full then after i go back into normal axe form and repeat the dodge heavy but without Beasthood to avoid getting one shotted by most of his attacks Risk but fast way of getting him to a weak state and requires good stamina management especially when he is finna transform to make sure u get max damage u can get off Also when he's doing the attack when he's really swinging back you can walk to ur right and it will miss you completely but this is only for first stage

                                                                                                                          • Anonymous

                                                                                                                            At first I thought Ihyll version of him is impossible to beat, but once I tried the visceral attacks tactics, he went down in 5th try I believe. And that's because I really suck in vsc attacks and rarely use them. Just make sure you use runes for additional vsc attack and maybe for few additional bullets.

                                                                                                                            • Anonymous

                                                                                                                              F/R/C Pthumeru Ihyll, visceral attacks + using the clawmark runes = no wasted time in battling this Dex fag (unless u are low BL with no points invested in skill and there for the challange)

                                                                                                                              • Anonymous

                                                                                                                                This boss is *LITERALLY* impossible. I have tried every single strategy (except arcane cuz i dont level that up). Hunter axe. One handed LHB. Two handed LHB. Blade of mercy. Parrying with pistol. Parrying with the hunter shotgun. I tried to be as agressive as him. Nothing worked. My best record is like 40% hp left of something. I'm afraid that i won't get the Platinum trophy. If you would combine Defiled Watchdog and defiled amygdala, that boss would be just a single minion compared to this fucker. I have tried like 50 Times. no result.

                                                                                                                                • Anonymous

                                                                                                                                  Found one today as a wandering enemy in one of those big garden rooms with the elevated fountain in the center. Also in the same room were two maneater boar, a keeper and its hellhounds, a labyrinth sage, and a chime maiden that kept summoning spiders from the balcony... It was hell.

                                                                                                                                  • Anonymous

                                                                                                                                    I discovered that his attacks don't connect right under him, so if you dodge *into* attacks then you don't get hit. That's how I finally beat him in Pthumeru Ihyll.

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