Pthumerian Descendant

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General Info
hp.jpg blood_echoes.jpg Location Drops
3437 4147 Central Pthumeru Chalice Lower Pthumeru Chalice, Cold blood gem (3)
16824 100474 Great Pthumeru Ihyll Chalice Tempering Damp Blood Gem (6), Cursed Cold (5)
Defenses
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114 110 110 --
blood_DEF.jpg arcane_DEF.jpg fire_atk.jpg bolt_DEF.jpg
110 52 60 154
slow_poison_RES.jpg rapid_poison_RES.jpg VS_beasts.jpg VS_kin.jpg
250 180 No No

Pthumerian Descendant (トゥメル人の末裔 Toumeru hito no matsuei lit. "Pthumerian Descendant") is a Boss in Bloodborne.

Pthumerian Descendant Information


The Descendant is a fast and relentless attacker that can be very difficult at high lvl depths. They may appear in any chalice dungeon and are a good source of Cold Blood Gems.

Locations

 

Combat Information

  • Weakest to Arcane; weak to Fire Damage
  • Defeat Pthumerian Descendant through chain staggering. Simply lock onto him and back-peddle away. Eventually he will quick step towards you to close the distance; blast him with your blunderbuss at this point, this will stagger him and you'll be able to easily dispatch him with Visceral Attacks. The timing seems to be fairly loose, but if you fail the timing the blast will still cause him to recoil and let you backstep away to bait him into following once more. Once he hits phase two he'll pull out a second Shotel and become more aggressive, including running towards you. Just backstep to keep enough distance to bait him into quickstepping towards you and follow the same strategy.
  • Once staggered, he dodges away from you. To prevent this, keep him against the walls and he will have nowhere to retreat.
  • The Combination of Lead Elixir (anti-stagger) and Beast Roar (will knock him to the ground if out of stamina or at low hp) ensuring an easy win.
  • When in 50% health he roars and begins to separate his one blade into two. Get behind him, charge R2 attack and get a chance to backstab him. It can also cancel his separation attempt and he will try it again, giving you another opportunity to backstab him.
  • If you have a fast and powerful weapon, with high damage per second, you can try to get him standing near a wall to stop his retreat and spam R1 when he is in 60% health. That way you can damage him to 50% so he begins the blade separation while under your heavy slashing. A good way to do high damage fast.
  • For an Arcane build, use gloves to stagger while getting close to deal damage. Repeat until dead.
  • Transformed Axe L2 (sweep attack) is very effective just after dodging behind him.

 

 

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One bladed moveset

Attack Name Attack Description & Counter
Rushing attack Often the first attack he does. If you are far away he quicksteps near you and swings his sword 1-4 times. The first attack is hard to parry and it depends on your distance but try firing your pistol immediately when you see him lifting his hand while rushing towards you. Mostly dodging towards him and endind up behind him is the best strategy.
Charge attack Charges a heavy slash by lifting his left hand slowly up, then yanking it fastly behind his head and then immediately slashing hard and continues with 1-2 fast and powerfull following slashes. First slash is easy to parry.
To counter shot fire pistol just before the charge is finished and the first slash starts, precisely when the fast yank happens. Fire blunderbuss little sooner, more precisely when the arm is lifted up but the yank has not started yet.
Blade toss Throws his blade at you and it boomerangs back to him. Blade can go through obstacles and walls. Mostly dodge left or right. Shooting him staggers him cancelling the attack and makes the flying blade teleport back to his hands safely not hurting you.
Left to right swing +combo Starts from lifting his left hand up and slashing to his low right, then lifts his hand to his upper right and slashes to upper left. If you are close he follows with 1-2 fast slashes. He can stop after first slash if you are far away. To get a chance to hit back walk far enough to avoid the first slash and dodge step the second to his left side (your right) to get behind him. This way he stops slashing and you get a very good opening for attacks. To get a parry fire your pistol after the first slash.
Right to left + combo Starts from lifting his left hand up to his right side and slashing to his upper left, and then slashes 1-3 times. Harder to parry since the first strike is faster than in "left to right" move so there is less time to react to the following swing. Often dodging back, away from him, is the best strategy.
Recovering slash After getting visceral attacked Descendant gets slowly up from the floor and takes a fast slash towards you instead of quickstepping away. Chances of a slash is high if you are close to him or he is near walls and can't quickstep away. This is actually a safe opportunity to try to parry him. After visceral attact get only a little closer to him so that the slash can't reach you and keep an eye on his right hand while he is getting up. Hand makes a U-turn like movement during getting up animation. Fire your pistol just before the U-turn is finished. Timing is difficult but if you are far enough there is no downside in failure since he either quicksteps away or the slash can't reach you.
Blade separation When in 50% health he quicksteps away from you, holds his blade high and splits it to two blades with a long shout starting the second phase of the fight. Keep an eye on his health bar. After you damage him under 50% health stay near him. When he quicksteps away run towards him (he won't attack) and get behind him with a quick weapon while he roars. Hold R2 for a charge attack and get a backstab chance. If done fast enough you can interrupt the separation and he has to do it again after visceral attack.

Two Blade moveset

Attack Name Attack Description & Counter
Rushing attack About the same attack as one bladed rush attack. Don't try to parry. It is possible but extremely risky.
Blade toss Tosses his blades more often than in first phase and distance to trigger the toss is shorter. Throws one or both blades. Safest direction to dodge is your left or if you are far enough straight away from him.
Jumping attack If you are far away from him he can jump towards you and make an X -shaped slash with his swords when he lands. Just dodge away or behind him when you think he is about to land.
Two bladed golf swing
to smash and X -slash
Lowers his both blades fast to his right side and then swings them up and left side of him and continues with slowly starting heavy two blade smash and heavy X -shaped two blade slash.
When you see his both hands high in his left side while he charges the smash attack fire pistol to get the counter shot of the following slash. Works when his both hands go up together and not slightly in turns which is another type of attack.
Faster golf swing and smash If you are close to him he can do slightly faster golf swing with slightly sooner starting smash and no X -slash. Parry timing is shorter and very difficult so dodging away or staying little farther away from him to not to trigger this move helps.
One-two + one-two combo Swings his swords side to side in turns 1-4 times. First blade goes up and second one goes horizontally left or right and then he repeats.
2 swings and an X -slash Swings both of his blades up to his right, then to his left and then finishes with the X -shaped slash. Fire pistol when he is charging the X -slash. Rather easy parry if you identify the combo soon enough.

 

Strategy 1 (Quick Attacks)

During the fight have a quick weapon (Blade of Mercy, Saw Cleaver, etc.) now dodge his attacks by going to his right side and attack him once or twice, he should then back off giving you breathing room however there is a uncommon chance he will simply turn towards you and attack you, so its important after you attack him to back-step away. His second stage is tricky, only attack when you know for sure he won't go into a combo attack, keep your distance and shoot him to get a visceral attack. Continue this until victory.

Strategy 2 (Parry Master)

In the first phase keep the distance between you so short that the first attack of a combo won't hit you but the secound would. Concentrate only on two of his attacks: charge attack and left to right + combo. Those are the easiest to parry (timings in the attack description above). Dodge rest. If the distance between you are too long he quicksteps towards you before starting to attack. When so always dodge away and don't try to countershot. Try to parry only when he begins an attack from walking animation.

In the second phase keep a sligthly longer distance to avoid faster version of golfswing but not too much since he tosses his blades now more often than before. Concentrate to parry only his slower smash after golfswing and the X -shaped slash after 2 swing combo. Also one-two combo is punishable if you manage to stay close enough to trigger him to continue after first one-two. Important: stay close! If you let him get far away his wider variety of long range attacks is much more dangerous than in phase one. Also getting countershots now is also more difficult.

Strategy 3 (Executioner's Gloves Stunlock)

This strategy is for builds with 20 arc, and can be used to effectively keep Descendant on the defensive for the entire fight. Slash your wrists for blood bullets, then vial up. Be cautious in your timing, as Descendant likes to use his throwing attack before you can heal. Wait until he dodges, then as his animation ends, cast the Executioner's Gloves. Immediately sprint toward him and perform a sprinting R2, followed by R1. The sprinting R2 will stagger Descendant, guaranteeing the R1 to connect on a quick weapon (if he dodges backward instead of to the side, your followup will connect on any weapon). Back away and be prepared to dodge in case he counters, but most often he will dodge away. If he dodges, immediately repeat the assault, then get some distance and refill your blood bullets. If Descendant successfully hits you while you are casting, don't panic: he will still be stunlocked when the skulls connect. Take advantage of this to regain by attacking, then get some distance and heal. This strategy can be mixed with Strategy 2 with a Blood Rapture or Oerdon Writhe rune.

 

Notes & Trivia

  • Is something called "Elder" but uses the descendant weapons. "Elder" has 16511 HP in FRC Ihyll/Loran/Isz
  • This Boss can also be a regular enemy in chalice dungeons.(possibly as a result of using a fetid or rotted offering)
  • Lore theories can be found under "The Mysteries of Cainhurst Garb & Architecture".

 

Gallery

 

Descendant Bird of Prey

Descendant No Face Descendant Walk Descendant Splatter Descendant Spin

 

 




    • Anonymous

      05 Apr 2019 21:48  

      I had a harder time with this guy than any other boss, including Orphan and the Defiled chalice bosses. After 10 deaths I got pissed off enough to cheese him with lead elixirs. In my defense, I really wanted the plat trophy and wanted to get past him asap. Now that I have 100% of the trophies, I think I'll recreate the chalice and try to beat him fairly. Just thinking about it makes my head hurt though.

      • Anonymous

        23 Feb 2019 18:00  

        I beat the lesser version of him with at level 26 w +6 hunter axe. Trying to see how far I can get through dungeons at lower levels.. anyhow, you actually Can dodge towards him. He jumps past you and you can hit his bum. Stage 2 is a but more iffy

        • Anonymous

          13 Feb 2019 00:42  

          The Arcane Kill. This is a fast fight. I prefer to do it with no sound on. I wore Bone Ash set, a fire saw cleaver, and with a high arcane build, with +hp tune, +stamina tune and a +4 bullets rune. I had 2 bullets at the end, and I of course used the blood bullet +5 thing to extend my arcane power. I maxed arcane, that’s just fun anyway. I used black eye sky for the first half of the fight. You have to get into the dodging rhythm to make it under his strokes and get behind him for a few quick hits using a small stamina quick weapon. You have to learn the exact distance his shotel / half moon shaped weapon goes and the best time to hit him with a spell is also when you would parry him, in the middle of his golf swing. You have to learn the moments where you can hit him with multiple hits in a row. You also have to keep moving and getting away from him, I use the outsides exclusively, always moving sometimes running. If you get lucky through your dodges, you can get him stuck in a corner or the wall as a way to trap him and get a bunch of strokes in. And then I would do two launches of the executioner gloves, blood bullet +5, blood vial, dodge, position yourself and launch again. I led him to the open area with the raised platform for this, less obstacles for the gloves.

          • Anonymous

            07 Feb 2019 05:16  

            Top tier boss. 10/10. ****ing love this guy. I wish every boss could be him. Think you got that parry? Think again. Think the environment will help you? Prepare to get stuck on a pillar and one shot, prepare for that boomerang. For someone that weak to arcane he’s got some ****ing magic going on in that **** right there.

            • Anonymous

              03 Feb 2019 06:02  

              since i am just going for the Yharnam trophy, i don't mind doing it dirty: if you are have enough vit and damage, just two-hand a heavy weapon, infuse arcane/fire, lead elixir, charge R2, heal, charge R2, heal, loop. just remember to reapply your lead and you have an easy kill

              • Anonymous

                18 Jan 2019 03:54  

                Arcane builds can beat him pretty easily by spamming augur since he runs right at you. It's hard to time so you'll probably only get a visceral 1 out of 4 times (not that arcane builds do much visc. damage anyways), but you'll be doing steady damage and staggering/knocking him down a lot.

                • Anonymous

                  08 Jan 2019 10:48  

                  Oh Boomerang Boi,.. In Ihyll the arena is a nightmare to deal with, especially when it locks you off him during combat, not to mention his Boomerang Blade BS clips through the walls and is a load of crap. Boomerang Boi here is one of the most annoying bosses in Bloodborne, only topped by the Abhorrent Beast, Gascoigne and the Orphan of Kos, at least the Orphan and Gascoigne can be effectively parried, the Abhorrent Beast can be Cheesed but this guy is a massive headache, and when the arena gets you killed you know you're in for fun times ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

                  • Anonymous

                    14 Nov 2018 15:27  

                    Number one and possibly only way to ever beat this spammer: Try to parry during combos, and just hope you are lucky to atcually get the parry to work. No skill required in this fight, just luck with getting the parries. Just tried it and sometime i timed it PERFECTLY and he just comboed me to death either way. 3rd try i killed him by just backing away/backstepping after baiting him to attack, tried to parry, and simply got lucky...worst boss of all time, not even joking! But hole...

                    • Anonymous

                      10 Nov 2018 23:25  

                      This prick is a nightmare in a cursed dungeon. If anyone is struggling with him, try the transformed Holy Moonlight Sword, hit him once max twice, and R2 his ass during the long combos from a safe distance. Also hmph hmph hmph hmph hmph.

                      • Anonymous

                        01 Nov 2018 20:12  

                        What really helped me with this fight: 1. DO NOT fight around the columns. Stick to one of the larger areas. 2. Don't hit him twice. Hit and back off after dodging. 3. When he's right before half health, know he's about to split his weapon. Get behind and charge a visceral. He probably won't even finish the weapon split so he'll try it again, and that's another free visceral. I managed 3 in a row on my first victory. GOOD LUCK!

                        • Anonymous

                          01 Nov 2018 16:14  

                          If anyone is having a particularly hard time, a strategy that's not above that works for me is to not try to parry him. At all. What you want to do is learn to dodge his attacks and always dodge towards him, trying to get behind him. Depending on the attack, after you get behind him, you could have enough time to hit once and run, or you could have enough time to backstab and riposte. This is by no means an EASY strategy, but if you get it down, it becomes a consistant strategy.

                          • Anonymous

                            03 Sep 2018 05:33  

                            I gotta say this boss is actual hell on earth to deal with especially in a cursed dungeon in his transformed state his double shotel throw will one shot you with stun and they come out hella fast I was able to beat him by running a risky Beasthood and HA+10 style by dodging his hits during his first phase and right after connecting a heavy attack that staggers him and usually makes him retreat I kept reparing this until he reach his transformed stage and after getting the backstab off I just spam the transform attack it does a solid 3k damage if I have my Beasthood about half way full then after i go back into normal axe form and repeat the dodge heavy but without Beasthood to avoid getting one shotted by most of his attacks Risk but fast way of getting him to a weak state and requires good stamina management especially when he is finna transform to make sure u get max damage u can get off Also when he's doing the attack when he's really swinging back you can walk to ur right and it will miss you completely but this is only for first stage

                            • Anonymous

                              06 Aug 2018 01:22  

                              At first I thought Ihyll version of him is impossible to beat, but once I tried the visceral attacks tactics, he went down in 5th try I believe. And that's because I really suck in vsc attacks and rarely use them. Just make sure you use runes for additional vsc attack and maybe for few additional bullets.

                              • Anonymous

                                03 Aug 2018 21:16  

                                F/R/C Pthumeru Ihyll, visceral attacks + using the clawmark runes = no wasted time in battling this Dex fag (unless u are low BL with no points invested in skill and there for the challange)

                                • Anonymous

                                  28 Jul 2018 22:38  

                                  This boss is *LITERALLY* impossible. I have tried every single strategy (except arcane cuz i dont level that up). Hunter axe. One handed LHB. Two handed LHB. Blade of mercy. Parrying with pistol. Parrying with the hunter shotgun. I tried to be as agressive as him. Nothing worked. My best record is like 40% hp left of something. I'm afraid that i won't get the Platinum trophy. If you would combine Defiled Watchdog and defiled amygdala, that boss would be just a single minion compared to this fucker. I have tried like 50 Times. no result.

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