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Moon Presence

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General Info
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8909 230000 Hunter's Dream None
Defenses
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137 137 137 --
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?? 75 75 75
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999 999 No No

Moon Presence (月の魔物 Tsuki no mamono lit. "Moon Demon/Fiend") is an optional final boss in Bloodborne.

Moon Presence Information

  • The Moon Presence can only be fought if you acquire and consume three of the four available One Third of Umbilical Cord items, refuse Gehrman's request, and then defeat Gehrman, The First Hunter. You don't have to have consumed the Cords prior to refusing - you can consume them after selecting "refuse", but before you defeat Gehrman.
  • Upon its defeat a cutscene will initiate and the game will end; you will then obtain the "Childhood's Beginning" trophy.
  • Gain 5 Insight for finding the boss and 5 Insight for killing him.

 

Locations

 

Drops

  • Blood Echoes: NG (230,000), NG+ (681,950), NG++(750,145), NG+3 (852,438), NG+5 (1,022,925), NG+6 and so on (1,704,875)

Combat Information

  • An easy way to fight the Moon Presence is to stay in mid-range and lure it into its 3-hit combo. During the 3rd hit dodge into the attack (time this properly so you don't take damage) you should end up behind it and can manage 1-2 hits before it jumps away. Rinse and repeat.
  • This is a much easier fight than Gehrman, but if you're out of blood vials you may want to let it kill you/use a Hunter's Mark to reset your blood vials to max. You will NOT have to fight Gehrman again.
  • Periodically through the fight the Moon Presence will summon pale white balls which burst and rain blood in a medium-sized AoE. If you get covered by the blood, you will not be able to heal for a short period of time. It acts in a similar fashion to Numbing Mist.
  • Susceptible to Visceral Attacks.
  • Gaze of the Moon is an AoE attack that takes the shape of a cone. It can unleash a devastating amount of damage (the hunter will be left with one health to be exact), so take very special care when dealing with this attack. Keep in mind however that successfully casting this attack also causes the Moon Presence to become exhausted and therefore giving you time to plan accordingly.
  • Burial Blade in scythe form has very high rally, making it an excellent counter to this attack. By attacking the Moon Presence while it is exhausted and vulnerable, one can safely recover all of their lost HP. However, since Burial Blade is obtained from defeating Gehrman, this strategy is impossible to players in NG unless they use Bold Hunter's Mark or are killed by the Moon Presence so as to return to Hunter's Dream in order to purchase the weapon.

 

Attack Name Attack Description & Counter
Grab The Moon Presence will swipe twice then do a forward lunge grab. This attack is very easy to strafe around and get a free hit in.
Swipe The boss will smash his right hand on the ground, and just after, use his tentacles to make a very fast swipe. It can be very surprising, but it can be very easy to dodge it by stepping back.
Jump The boss will jump on you and try to smash you. This attack is very easy to dodge by sidestepping it. Usually you can land one or two attacks after the boss lands.
Blood Moon Orb The boss will pop one pale white orb above its head, raining blood down on the player. If the blood hits you, you will be de-buffed for 20 seconds, and you will not be able to use Blood vials.
Blood Clouds The boss summons pale clouds which rise from the ground as it attacks you. After a moment, these clouds burst and rain blood in their vicinity. Being hit by the blood prevents you from using Blood Vials for a while.
Gaze of the Moon The boss will hold its face and release a burst of light. Those hit by this attack will be left with 1HP. It can instantly kill co-operaters with less than 30% health.
Once its health is below 30%, this attack will also prevent you from using healing items. After this attack, the boss will be still for a few seconds; if there are no Blood Moon Orbs close to him, rush to the boss and land multiple attacks on him. It is possible to recover all of your HP by attacking the boss, as the window for recovery is huge.
This attack cannot be dodged.

 

Strategies

 

Melee Strategy

The fight with the Moon Presence begins immediately after you've beaten Gehrman, The First Hunter. Chances are you're probably low on blood vials and quicksilver bullets so the recommended tactic is to allow the boss to kill you or use a Bold Hunter's Mark to refresh your stocks (nevertheless, attempting to beat the boss with what you have is still a good idea if you are confident). If you're fighting Moon Presence, Gehrman won't have dropped any Blood echoes, so you don't need to worry so much about losing them.

As with most of the bosses in the game, Moon Presence is weak to bolt and fire (arcane untested at this point) so bolt paper/fire paper, a fire imbued weapon or the Tonitrus leveled to at least +8 are recommended for this fight.

While Moon Presence is very aggressive, the fight is much easier than the Gehrman battle. He will chase you down quickly, but his 3 hit combo can be easily dodged, allowing you to get behind the boss and score a quick combo. In fact, if you happen to be co-operating on this fight, the ends of the boss' tail can be hit, so if he is not focused on you, there is a perfect way to safely deal damage.

Besides the combo attack, the main melee attack to be cautious of is his tail swipe. He'll spin on the spot and his tail will catch you like a mace, knocking you down. Fortunately, he doesn't come back to deal damage when you're on the ground, so get out of there quickly.

About a third of the way into the fight he'll start using a cone attack. This has him stopping for a few seconds to charge and emanating a large red blast from his head. This is risk and reward with this. If you get close enough, quickly enough you can score a charged attack on him, staggering him and opening him up for a visceral attack. However, if you're caught by the blast you'll be knocked back and your health will be dropped to 1hp. The attack will NEVER kill you, but it leaves you incredibly vulnerable. As a trade off, he rests for a few seconds after the attack, so you can either back off and heal or get aggressive and gain your health back via regain.

He'll also start secreting a black liquid from his tail. This is the downside of staying behind him. If you're caught in the liquid you're unable to use Blood Vials and therefore, unable to heal. If you're affected by this fluid then caught by the cone attack you're guaranteed to be in a bad position. Eventually it wears off so if you are on low health and affected by this, run and keep your distance until you can heal up.

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Notes & Trivia

  • The appearance of Moon Presence resembles Nyarlathotep from various novels written by H.P. Lovecraft.
  • The Moon Presence, along with Mergo's Wet Nurse, are the only two bosses that give the message "Nightmare Slain" instead of the normal "Prey Slaughtered" (or the Japanese message "You Hunted"). In the DLC, this number increases to three with Orphan of Kos.
  • There is a glitch wherein a summoned co-operator will appear in the cutscene where the host should be seen rejecting the Moon Presence's embrace.
  • It is possible to defeat the Moon Presence, and still remain in your current game difficulty by using a hunter's mark just after you defeat the boss. Entering the area again, before the great tree will trigger the cutscene leading to new game plus.
  • The song playing during the first phase of the fight is based on the Nameless Song from Dark Souls.
  • The Moon Presence may clutch its face right before it begins to thrash. This could indicate a headache or that it's blinding herself.

 

Lore

  • Given the effects that the One Third of Umbilical Cords have on the Moon Presence, we can infer that the Moon Presence is what the game refers to as a "Great One".
  • Fake Iosefka's dialogue during the Blood Moon may reference this: "How they writhe, writhe inside my head... It's... rather... rapturous..."
  • The Living String suggests that "Great Ones" take up a variety of forms, the "Mother Brain" being one of them.
  • "... And when the Great Ones descend, a womb will be blessed with child."; before entering the fight with Mergo's Wet Nurse, we see Yharnam, Pthumerian Queen, weeping. The bloodstain on her dress is more than likely a way of saying that she was pregnant. In any case, it's only logical that she must be weeping for her child, Mergo.
  • We also witness Arianna give birth to an alien child that drops a One Third of Umbilical Cord, suggesting that for this "Red Moon", she was blessed with a child by a Great One. It's no surprise really, given the similarities between Arianna and The Queen (See Arianna's page for more detail).
  • It's also possible that fake Iosefka was trying to become impregnated with a Great One, as she also drops an Umbilical Cord and seems to have been experimenting with those sent to her clinic.
  • "Every great one loses its child, and then yearns for a surrogate..."; a surrogate is a replacement. The fight with Mergo's Wet Nurse suggests that something in the past resulted in the death of Mergo.
  • The Moon Presence can be considered the true founder of the Hunt; it used Gehrman as a surrogate host to create the Hunter's Dream in order to undo the Great One's madness. If it weren't for its existence, the Hunt wouldn't exist, and the Hunter may have become yet another victim of the Beast Plague.
  • Like the Brain of Mensis, the Moon Presence seems to be subject to rot and decay. There seems to be a kinship between the Moon Presence and the Silverbeasts. They are both capable of bipedal and quadrupedal movement. They both have the same exposed ribs. The slanted heads of the Silverbeasts may be an attempt to recreate the Moon Presence's unusual visage.
  • See Moon Presence Lore for more.

 

Gallery

 

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    • Anonymous

      05 Oct 2017 15:46  

      'The song playing during the first phase of the fight is based on the Nameless Song from Dark Souls.'

      Oh really now, it's a reference to Dark Souls and not a step up from the singing of the Moonlit Melody, which is the 2nd theme for the Hunter's Haven after the Bloodmoon descends? Just because the MLG is the Cid of Fromsoft, doesn't mean things that could be to be obscure references are actually references to Dark Souls.

      • Anonymous

        21 Sep 2017 18:55  

        I am pretty sure the Moon Presence is immune to the Oiled status,i keep throwing oil urns at it but it never seems to affect the damage i deal with fire.

        • Anonymous

          29 Aug 2017 19:36  

          It would have been cooler if it was truly a win-or-lose kind of boss, like if it kills you just once, you end up with the Honoring Wishes ending whether you like it or not. Otherwise it's just a really easy boss to take down, and if you lose, there's hardly any worry about losing your blood echoes since you can just run right back in and grab them without too much fuss. Having more of a risk would have made it feel more intense, even if it's a fairly straightforward boss fight.

          • Anonymous

            13 Aug 2017 19:09  

            The Moon Presence is Gwyndolin, Irithyll is Yharnam in the future, Aldrich's "age of the deep sea". The "tomb of the gods" refers to Gwyn's actual tomb in Anor Londo which was buried over time as we see in Bloodborne that Yharnam is built on top of itself again and again. The age of the deep sea is centered around consuming another's power, through blood this time, but not unlike the Literal devouring and absorbing of Aldrich, who was the first "human-made" great one, similar to the One Reborn and not an actual alien being, we can see Aldrich is comparable though, in that he can create things form his dreams, not unlike the nightmares in Bloodborne. His existence obviously brought attention to the alien great ones, Gwyndolin, before being devoured by Aldrich, had changed his identity to "Nameless Moon" as we can see in the Dark souls 3 sunless armor description. The sunless realms being Irithyll, presumably, Gwyndolin rooted out sun worshiping and plunged Irithyll into a permanent cold, moonlit state. Aldrich is killed by the Ashen One before he can truly devour Gwyndolin's Lord soul, Gwyndolin is reincarnated as the "Nameless Moon Presence" a master of deception and of the hunt, with the age of the fire inevitably over, the only thing to challenge the Deep/old ones is of course, the Moon, this is why the Moon Presence is manipulating the player into hunting down the great ones, the entirety of Bloodborne is a cosmic war between Aldrich/the deep/the old ones, and Gwyndolin/the moon/.

            • Anonymous

              25 Jul 2017 18:45  

              Pro tip: equip the Bold Hunter's Mark in your quick access, then after killing MP, wait for the "NIGHTMARE SLAIN" banner to appear, then immediately use the Mark to respawn at the entrance to the Hunter's Dream. MP will be dead, and the sky will remain black with a red moon, and the gate to the garden will be open without a nightmare fog. Congratulations! You've killed an omnipotent god and remained mostly unchanged!

              (Just go back into the garden if you want to restart the game on the next NG level.)

              • Anonymous

                23 Jun 2017 22:05  

                The Moon Presence musical theme has nothing in common with Nameless Song, except that it uses a solo female voice. That is the end of their commonalities, and is not nearly enough to state that they're related. They are definitely not.

                • Anonymous

                  10 Apr 2017 22:26  

                  Is it best to go for this ending on your first playthrough, since the Moon Presence has lower health, or is it better to go after it in NG+ or even NG++? Trying to think of the most efficient way to get the three endings but you know.... die less times doing it.

                  • Anonymous

                    More than 305 Jul 2016 14:56  

                    I just finished getting my 4th piece of the umbilical cord, ive consumbed the first 3 any insight in i consume the 4th?

                    • Anonymous

                      Not true ending per se05 Jul 2016 14:56  

                      So what I think happens is that a player's intentions are being transferred into the character's intentions. If you go around the game killing every ancient you can find and getting all the insight you can - you are fulfilling what the Church have tried to do. Being a strong enough character you consume all the ancient echos and insight, thus getting more and more power, while in the end, defeating Moon Presence itself you get so much ancient blood and insight you literally turn into a Great One. <br/> <br/>So while being a possible ending, this is not by any means a "truer" one to reawakening. Because what church has learned is that with enough power you can turn your dreams into reality. And it looks like you do just that when Gerhman beheads you - you make a "real" world to reawaken into, just like Gerhman made a Hunter's Dream.

                      • Anonymous

                        Message05 Jul 2016 14:56  

                        On the lecture hall second floor, there is a message in a room across from where the giant is, it reads. "The nameless moon presence beckoned by Laurence and his associates. Paleblood."

                        • Anonymous

                          Lore05 Jul 2016 14:56  

                          It seem that the Moon Presence was called by Laurence and his friends. A note in the University (as I remind), "The Moon Presence without name, called by Laurence and his mates. Paleblood." After this note we will find another one: "Three third cords". So, this suggest that probably Laurence betrayed Willem to joins (or to found, who know) the School of Mensis, then he was able to call the Moon Presence (that did not have a name, as this is the only way we call it). At the end, we can speculate that the Paleblood is probably the Moon Presence. If the TRUE ending is when we killed the Moon Presence, well, it seem like we've found what we was looking for, or, another idea, WE are the Paleblood becoming a new Great One.

                          • Anonymous

                            moon presence and endgame weapon question05 Jul 2016 14:56  

                            Is there a way to retain the burial blade from your first playthrough, by killing the first hunter, and still fight the moon presence in the same playthrough? <br/>Secondly can u attempt the moon presence fight multiple times or does the game 'end', ergo move into ng+, if u die to it once? <br/> <br/>Thx for the help in advance

                            • Easy boss, has terrible hitbox05 Jul 2016 14:56  

                              Just killed this guy on my second try. First try I died because I had 0 blood vials going into the fight. <br/>Anyhoo, the boss' hitboxes for the triple attack is horrible, and if you stick close it'll favor the 3-hit combo. It did the blood moon orbs once, which was easy enough to dodge, as they don't explode right away, and it tried to do some sort of spinning sweep attack after the 3-hit combo while I was wailing at it from behind, but that attack hits like a wet noodle. For many of the hits on the 3-hit combo I didn't even have to dodge, as they just hit above my character when right up against the boss.

                              • Anonymous

                                Are the umbilical cords goon for one fight?05 Jul 2016 14:56  

                                If you die during the gehrman fight after eating the umbilical cords, does that mean you can no longer get the true ending or are the umbilical cords still "active" or are they only good if you don't die? <br/>So to simplify can you try the gehrman fight multiple times after you die?

                                • Anonymous

                                  stillbirth of brains lore05 Jul 2016 14:56  

                                  Okay , by this i could only think it meant this : seeing as gehrman is its puppet , and when you defeat gehrman , it tries to hug you and do the same to you. <br/>Couldn't this be more evidence that mergo infact is the moon presence? <br/>Seeing as it makes you its puppet , stillbirth of brain? Anyone? <br/> <br/>Also ,a question , is mergo the baby of the queen of yharnam you encounter when you fight the wet nurse?

                                  • Anonymous

                                    Lvl 124 Easiest Boss Ever05 Jul 2016 14:56  

                                    Well...my purpose was to die to see if I had to beat Gehrman again...just beated it randomly with side 1H R1, it gets stunned after some hit, once it stop to charge/trasform I have started to use 2H L2...finished it with some R1, probably I was overpowered (however I had some difficulties woth Gehrald)

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