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Forgotten Madman is a Boss in Bloodborne.
Forgotten Madman Information
- Rewards 1 insight for discovery and 3 insights for victory.
- Also unlocks the madman set at the insight vendor.
Location
- The Forgotten Madman is the boss of Lower Hintertomb Chalice (Layer 2).
Combat Information
- The Forgotten Madman is a hunter-boss who uses a Ludwig's Holy Blade and Ludwig's Rifle. He also keeps his sword buffed with the Empty Phantasm Shell at all times.
- He also uses the Augur of Ebrietas and A Call Beyond. When his hit point is dropped to half, the Forgotten Madman summons another hunter, the Madman's Escort. The Madman's Escort uses a Kirkhammer and a Flamesprayer.
- The Forgotten Madman seems to frequently use the transforming attack of Ludwig's Holy Blade (longsword to greatsword). This attack takes a long time to execute, perfect for easy viscerals.
Strategies
Videos
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Notes & Trivia
- The Madman's Escort will use the clap gesture if you are slain.
- The Madman himself uses the conviction gesture if he wins.
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Anonymous"Oh, you thought other NPC hunter fights were BS, hold my beer"
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Does anyone know if the Frenzy effect of the Bloodletter's L2 attack has any effect on these two?
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His set with the lumenwood rune and kos parasite looks dope af
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"Forgotten Madman" Yeah the "forgotten" part really makes sense, easily the most forgettable boss in the game.
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Small question there; so those guys are hunters so, do they drop blood dreg as any other hunter ennemy in the game or not ?
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This gank duo is somehow more disrespectful than actual players when they kill you
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I had honestly forgotten about this boss, after I passed the Hintertombs I never went back.
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I like their freaky asymmetric faces. At least it helps set them apart from regular NPC's a little bit.
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A useful strategy for lower levels is getting the first one down enough for the second one to spawn, use the shaman bone blade and they'll attack one another most likely the first one will kill the second one
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I just obliterated them with the L2 attack with kos parasite. Basically oneshotted the escort.
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One of the trivia points is probably incorrect, since Ludwig's Holy Blade and the Kirkhammer are both Church Weapons, which didn't come into usage until after Byrgenwyrth's time.
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Why is Fromsoft so bad at making NPC invaders. Unlike the other enemies in the game, which when you lose to it's your fault for not noticing that patterns, these guys (like the last games) have way to much health, and way to fast reflexes, considering they can parry you on your first strike. Seriously Fromsoft, what the hell?
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phase 1) Ludwig's Holy Blade, with gun also uses an arcane buff to the blade he fights like any other hunter after about 75% phase 2) another Madman spawns and at least uses the Kirkhammer.
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Lore-wise I mean. He uses Ludwig's blade, Ludwig's Rifle, uses a Empty Phantasm. He was clearly someone important if he had an escort, one who wields a Kirkhammer no less. It's known that the Healing Church sent hunters to explore the tombs. Maybe Ludwig discovered the Truth and went insane.
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I'm pretty sure that "spell similar to homing soul mass" is A Call Beyond, and it is available to the player.
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As someone rightfully noted below, it's doubtful that it's Ludwig since Ludwig only used the silver sword. The description for his weapon states "When transformed, it combines with its sheath to form a greatsword. It exhibits several departures from the workshop's design, suggesting that the Church anticipated much larger inhuman beasts." suggesting the sheathe was developed later, meaning that "Ludwig's Sword" as the hunters use is simply a further development on his original weapon. Likely the hunters in the dungeon are simply random hunters.
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Been stuck on him for days, if anyone wants to help hmu @ jizz_khalifa420
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To win this fight you need to keep rolling, dodging, whatever to get out of the way from his chain attacks. Use the pillars to your advantage when you need to heal. Stick to a skill weapon as opposed to a strength one. Focus on the madman as much as you can, if you kill him shortly after his buddy comes in the fight will be easier.
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The Forgotten Escort will not use his Kirkhammer until the Forgotten Madman is slain. Until then he would only attack with his Flamesprayer. Is false and should reflect that the escort will use the kirkhammer as well as the flamesprayer, regardless of the madman's current health status.
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The Forgotten Escort will use his Kirkhammer, even when the Madman is still alive. In fact, I didn't even know he had a Flamesprayer, he never used it on me.
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Once the escort comes out, use this for crowd control. I used it in conjunction with the Wheel to smash while them while one was getting up! Hope that helps!
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The two men willem sent are the gatekeeper to forsaken woods and the graveguard, both are dead, or 'alrady dead'. Can confirm with grave guard set descript.
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If you hit either of them with a Shaman Bone Blade they will fight each other, often this leads to the death of the escort and the madman being severely injured.
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I am fairly certain that I got more blood echoes than that, I had 3600 and now I have 18400 not using moon rune
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If you use a shaman blade to switch the Madman's Escort to fight alongside the player, he will clap when the Madman is killed (and whilst the Escort is clapping you can use the time to line up for a nice backstab).
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Ludwig was confirmed to be in the upcoming DLC. This clearly cannot be Ludwig.
Could be possible but i think its more likely that ludwig is actually the cleric beast. Vaatividya has some strong points to back this theory up https://youtu.be/aRv4a8K8hYQ
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Easiest hunter enemies in the game by far. Used Blades of Mercy +10 and Old Hunter Bone. Managed to get the madman against a pillar and just slized away at him, until he died. Got hit once by the escort's flamesprayer, but that's about it. Very easy with a fast blade like BoM.
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They clearly have a connection to the Chior for they have all the tools like the Argur and Call from Beyond phantasm.
Seriously one the of the worst "boss" encounters Fromsoft has ever done, these guys are like Armorer Dennis levels of an unfunny developer troll.
This boss can get up from being knocked over, instantly parry you without being on his feet, do Augur of Ebreitas in the middle of being attacked for your entire health bar.
This is a perfect example of why most of hunter fights suck in the main game of Bloodborne, rather than trying to actually give the NPC hunters a coherent moveset, they just gave them a bunch of unfair advantages of infinite stamina and bullets and were like "we're done here. "
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