any way to talk to her with max insight or whatever?

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I'm having some weird **** happen with this location. I clearly remember going here in earlier playthroughs and seeing an Amygdala here, caged head, gangly arms, and all. Went back today, saw Rom there instead. I'd chalk this up to Mandela Effect, but I remember it vividly and clearly. Maybe I'm just losing it.

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why isn't this more filled out? isn't this the key that makes all the lore make sense?

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"Rom's corpse is found here for some reason."
****in S+ tier commentary

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Cum

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While many believe the corpse of Rom is in this room, I think it is the empty shell of what Ebrietas was before brought to the Altar. How else would the Church have relocated her in the first place, unless she was in a helpless pupae stage.

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Rom, Ebrietas, the Celestial Emmissary, and the infantile Kin all appear to be some meaningful form of Great Ones. Elsewhere in descriptions, you may find the phrase "left-behind Great Ones." These Kin would have been abandoned in Yharnam, possibly without warning or explanation, steering the Choir toward observing the cosmos for signs as opposed to ongoing contact with a lesser/vassal species of the Great Ones. I postulate that she does understand that Rom is dead, and brought its remains to the altar in a desperate bid to restore life to the last of her left-behind Kin. Though the altar reverses the effects of time, as demonstrated with the Queenly Flesh, Ebrietas lacked the secrets/materials to affect this reversal upon Rom, and could only mourn in her absolute misery. Hence, why she ignores you entirely at first; too depressed to care.

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I think this is actually Rom’s husk when she/he ascended. The body has been laying their so long, blood moss has grown and starting to blossom. I think Ebritas is more or looking after the husk in someway and unaware Rom is dead via the dream plane.

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Roms body is there because Ebritas wants to ressurect rom, keep in mind you can resurrect the queen from here.

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It literally explains why the altar is there and everyone is asking why it says for nothing. If you kill the queen of the vilebloods at cainhurst and get the queenly flesh I believe you take it there to resurrect her and she will be at cainhurst.

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The elevator leading to Ebrietas is broken on one of my characters. It happened when I got summoned while riding the elevator

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Where is it

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Anyone know what to do with the spider you can inspect after the boss?

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the actual altar is likely a reference to nausicaa of the valley of the wind by hayoa miyazaki, and its not the first one by FROM, ash lake also strongly resembled a location from nausicaa.... director Hidetaka Miyazaki obviously has a great deal of admiration for his namesake

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So question : Lets say you kill Annalise and get her flesh, get to new game+ Do you still have the flesh and if so what happens when you put it on the Altar when that games Annalise is still alive?

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Ludwigs sword with damp bolt hunters bloodgem 10 hits to the head she died lol

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Quickdraw= 890~ damage

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just had a thought about using Iosefka's blood vial might revive her, but cannot test this cause I've used it

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Do you have to kill ebrietas to use the alter on annalise? Or could I ignore the boss fight altogether and revive her anyway?

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"Apparently Ebrietas is especially familiar to one of these servants, and bestowed her profound understanding of time to him(her). Unfortunately the human body is too frail to withstand such bombardment of knowledge, and the servant was eventually transformed into a vacuous spider like Rom, whose remains has the capability to reverse time (although the process would kill any normal living things)." If you look at the Altar itself it looks like Rom so I assume that is the corpse of the servant Ebrietas was fond of which not only explains why she's looking at the altar when you arrive and pays no attention to you but also why it can bring Analise back. Also despair because it makes Ebrietas sad? Sorry if everyone worked that out already or already has a theory that puts myn to shame but I wanted to share it after I thought it up

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Is it possible to take the skull of Laurence to the altar?

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This boss and its location reminds me a lot of Seath the Scaless boss fight.

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why is ebrietas looking at rom's corpse before you start the fight and after beating ebrietas how can you speak with rom's corpse ?

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