The Whirligig Saw is a Trick Weapon in Bloodborne, introduced with The Old Hunters DLC. There are 3 versions of this weapon: Normal, Uncanny and Lost. The only known differences being the Gem Imprints and the locations in which they are found.
Whirligig Saw Description
"A trick weapon crafted by the workshop heretics, the Powder Kegs, and weapon of choice of the Old Hunter Valtr, the Beast Eater.
This weapon pummels beasts in its mace form, but its true strength lies in its attached mechanical saws.
These discs, lined with serrated teeth,spin rapidly, thrashing the flesh of beasts into fine shreds."
Whirligig Saw Information
- Transforms from a Long-handed Mace to a Buzzsaw-on-a-Stick.
- Requires 16 Blood Stone Shards, 16 Twin Blood Stone Shards, 16 Blood Stone Chunks, 1 Blood Rock, and 6360 Blood Echoes to fully upgrade
- To perform a Leap Attack, tap forward on the Left Stick as you press R2
- To perform a Transformation Attack, press L1 while performing another attack.
Location
Normal
- From the Nightmare Church go down the stairs near the lamp, and drop down into the canal filled with some crows and follow the path until you reach the end where a snail woman falls down near the weapon. Go near the weapon and the path behind you will close.
Uncanny Whirligig Saw
- If you have the normal version: Create Glyph 8i29rqz3 (Pthumeru Labyrinth) and buy from Bath Messengers up a ladder from the main room for 30,000 Blood Echoes.
Lost Whirligig Saw
- If you have the normal version: Create Glyph 8i29rqz3 (Pthumeru Labyrinth) and buy from Bath Messengers up a ladder from the main room for 30,000 Blood Echoes.
Player Notes
- This weapon is classed as serrated in its transformed mode.
- Buzzsaw form seems capable of scoring multiple hits. In PvP, this makes the weapon ideal for punishing dodge-spammers.
- It also is a good choice for Poison gems due to easily scoring multi-hits with many of its attacks, including its L2.
- Press and hold L2 during transformed mode to perform continuous, multiple buzzsaw hits at the cost of stamina being consumed over time. This is capable of stun-locking most enemies for as long as the buzzsaw continues and is great for boss fights, as it allows cooperators to join in the attack and direct the foe's attention away from the person wielding the buzzsaw so they may safely retreat after running out of stamina.
- When using the L2 attack in transformed mode, after the initial L2 thrust, the constant saw attack can be cancelled at any time. Meaning the user can hold the saw in place and maximize damage output all the while given the opportunity to dodge at the last second before the enemy can land a strike assuming they can poise through the Whirligig's attack.
- A fully charged R2 will rear the weapon back and slam it on the ground, all the while accelerating the buzzsaw. The main damage source will come from the ground slam itself, meaning that you can miss the target and only do minor damage while simply sawing the ground near them. Make sure that the buzzsaw itself connects fully through the entire attack duration for maximum damage.
Stats/Scaling
Movesets & Videos
| Move | Damage Type & Modifier | Stamina | Effect |
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| R1 Combo | 1.00x, 1.04x, 1.08x, 1.13x | 25 | Diagonal horizontal slash from the right shoulder to the left foot, horizontal backhand swipe from left to right, followed by a backhand diagonal slash from the right shoulder to the left foot, then a forward thrust, another backhand diagonal slash, followed by a thrust. |
| Backstep R1 | .93x | 20 | Performs a forward thrust. |
| Dodge R1 | ?? ~ ?? | ?? ~ ?? | After the roll, performs a horizontal swipe from right to left. |
| Dash R1 | 1.13x | 35 (+run) | Performs a forward thrust. |
| R2 Attack | 1.23x | 40 | Overhead vertical slam. |
| Charged R2 | 1.73x | 70 | Performs a powerful horizontal swipe from right to left. |
| Backstep R2 | 1.33x | 35 | Performs a sweeping uppercut from the right foot across the body. |
| Dodge R2 | ?? | ?? | After the roll, performs a downward slam. |
| Dash R2 | 1.53x | 50 | Performs a downward slam. |
| Leap | 1.60x | 55 (+run) | Performs a leaping ground slam. |
| Transform Attack | 1.53x | 45 (+x) |
| Move | Damage Type & Modifier | Stamina | Effect |
|---|---|---|---|
| R1 Combo | 1.33x, 1.37x, 1.49x | 30 | Alternates two horizontal swipes from different directions, followed by a thrust, an overhand vertical slam, then a horizontal swipe from right to left. |
| Backstep R1 | 1.33x | 30 | Performs a backhanded uppercut from the left foot to the right shoulder. |
| Dodge R1 | ?? ~ ?? | ?? ~ ?? | Performs a forward thrust. |
| Dash R1 | 1.44x | 35 (+run) | Performs a backhand horizontal swipe moving from left to right. |
| R2 Attack | 1.73x | 50, 60 | A horizontal and diagonal slash from the left shoulder to the right foot. |
| Charged R2 | (30*3 + 180) | ?? | Performs a backhand overhead ground slam that appears to be a horizontal swipe at the beginning. |
| Backstep R2 | (30*2+120) | 40 | Performs an overhand vertical slam. |
| Dodge R2 | ?? | ?? | After the roll, performs a backhanded diagonal slash from the left shoulder to the right foot. |
| Dash R2 | 1.86x | 55 (+run) | Performs a dragging saw backhand vertical and slightly diagonal uppercut. |
| L2 | 1.06x+65+30+65 |
25+10+10 | Hold to use spinning saw. Will inflict damage as long as it's spinning, consuming stamina. Release L2 to stop the spinning. |
| Leap | 2.00x | 55 | Performs a backhand leaping ground slam. |
| Transform Attack | (30*2+105) | 50 (+x) |
Trivia
- If you use the L2 buzzsaw attack against Orphan of Kos and hold it in place, it attempts to make an immediate counterattack for each time it gets hit by the whirring blades, only to get interrupted by the next hit. It shrieks every time it attacks, so as a result, it lets loose dozens of overlapping shriek sound effects for as long as you hold it in place.
- A whirligig is defined as a toy that is constantly spinning, such as a top or pinwheel, or as something regarded as hectic and constantly changing.
- Similar to most Powder Keg weapons sharing homage to Armored Core weapons, the Whirligig Saw is based on the Grind Blade.
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Anonymous"Old-fashioned high-yield beast disposal saw blades. A classic choice for the savagely elegant Powder Kegs. A shame so few surviving examples remain operational, but if you should find one for yourself, then you'll get a good glimpse of how the mad inventors wheeled and dealed, and in such a brutally artistic manner, might i say!"
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at +10 has 71 rally untransformed and 120 rally transformed.
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Fun fact: you can see a trigger situated on the side of the mace, and when holding the L2, the hunter appears to be holding the trigger, likely meaning the sawblades are operated by said trigger.
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Why is it that a part of me takes a certain sadistic joy in grinding enemies into pieces with this thing?
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great guy and he loves me very much and I am so glad to be able to help him out with the first time that happened and we were just trying to make sure we had a great time.
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This weapon is so good that I feel like it almost makes the game a little too easy, i guess thats a good thing?
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Hot take here: I think this weapons moveset is not as reliable as people may make it out to be, but it might just be my playstyle. I think the L2 is fine, but again, not that exceptional. If itd your first time playing, by all means, go for it. Its one of the best str weapons, and it can dish out a crap ton of serrated damage, as well as having a B scaling in arcane, making it a versatile weapon. I simply dont like its moveset, and I think the logarius wheel, or maybe the kirkhammer would be a better, safer option. Disagree if you want
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Whirligig Saw is a good weapon, but requires no skill to use and I’m not talking about the stat
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You spin me right round, baby right round, like an outlawed medieval torture device, right round, right round
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Your super size 16-inch Yharnamite pizza with Beast meat and extra blood dip coming right up
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what is that shell thing with the white corpse looking thing coming out of it that hits the groung right before you pick up the whirligig saw
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for full immersion make sure to play pizza time while you pizza cutter someone to death
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I play for the first time Bloodborne. I have a 50 STR/ 25 SKI character and 50 VIT for a BL100. I force myself to play with Kirkhammer, because Whirligig Saw is OP. I can melt anything with it. And I destroy everyone in PVP. Even 3 vs 1. The scaling is very good. But the god part is the moveset. Magnificent range, speed but also swings. You can cover so much space with it. In comparison, the hammer moveset is so bad, and slow... the sword is good but not that powerful, and also shorter than the mace from the whirligig saw.
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B scaling in arcane at +10, which is on par with most church weapons. Does some wicked damage with the right arcane gems on a 99 arc build
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elitist: y-you can't just hold L2 t-t-that's op! XxxMILFslayerxxX: haha saw go brrrrr
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How the F is this a STR weapon? I went with a skill build because I thought all the brute, raw weapons will be STR, while all the technical weapons will be Skill. But it looks like I cucked myself big time. Literally all the interesting weapons are STR... Have fun throwing that cane or rifle spear around skilllet!
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I am become oreo, whacker of weeds, server of pizza, destroyer of worlds.
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Why is this not called the beast cutter instead of the actual beast cutter.
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Do you want a Serrated Weapon or a Blunt Weapon? Powder Kegs: Yes.
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Boss: "I am unknowable; an eldrich horror that can drive weaker men to insanity with one gaze. You fools stand no chance of defeating me!" Guy with sharp pizza cutter: K
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Best weapon overall. Rakuyo is more stylish, but the Pizza Cutter is invincible.
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Thoughts on using this for an Arcane build? Debating between this or min-maxing straight to 99 arcane.
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Oh sorry, I didn’t realize we were playing a Pizzeria simulator
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technically, if I find this in a chalice dungeon I could get it without the DLC right?
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Slap the blood gem that you get from amelia on this and put a fire gem on it and you have a beast SLAYER
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The pizza cutter is my "tactical nuke" of sorts. When things seem impossible, whip out this beauty, and it cuts through every problem.
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I'm torn between doing an NG+ run with this bad boy, or making a new character and using the Moonlight Greatsword
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I used lots of tools for calculating Weapon AR. Kirkhammer have A scaling with STR, Whirligig Saw have S scaling. However, STR bonus always is higher in Kirkhammer. How is it even possible? With 40STR/40SKL, kirk get 149 from STR (A scaling) and 43 from SKL (E scaling). Whirligig get 148 from STR (S scaling) and 40 from SKL (D scaling) ... Why are smaller numbers with better scaling??
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This one and the Rakuyo are the perfect combination! The W Saw is devastating versus beast enemies, so I use cursed gems of 27,2% in it with the negative effect against kin. Viceversa, for the Rakuyo I use the same gems but with the opposite negative effect (lower damage versus beasts). And for PvP, both are greats! A very versatile movesets make them the Queens of Bloodborne.
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"To show you the power of Flex Tape...I've sawn this beast in half!"
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Now all that we need is an oversized pizza to cut this with.
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This weapon is the single most beautiful thing I have ever had the good fortune to lay my eyes on. The attack is great, the L2 is spectacular, and the running R2 makes you feel like an insane bloodsucking bat destroying all that stands in its way by doing nothing but shrieking and windmilling its arms around like a treant pretending to be an idiot pretending to be a tornado. It handles like a smooth jazz player jumping into the crowd after he just did an impromptu solo and I managed to down a certain Laurence in literally 2 tries with this weapon. It's just insane. Oh, and if you pair it with elemental or arcane damage it makes you resemble anything that looks like murder-jesus himself. So buckle up, get your ass over to the Nightmare, and-
Oh, wait, it literally doesn't need any boss defeated to get. WHAT? THIS IS THE MOST AMAZING WEAPON OF ALL TIME!!?! Buy one now at 000-I-NEED-BETTER-WEAPONS-THAN-A-SAW-CLEAVER and get a stupid little whippy cane with it that you can throw in the fire!?
So, yeah, I'd give it a nice 9/Giraffe.
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We all know what this weapon should be called: The Giant Oreo
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The location is wrong, you go on the path to the right (where the lamp is), not the left.
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I literally see no point in using any other weapon besides this one. It's literally perfect.
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I noticed this weapon scales very nicely with arcane. Does having high arcane actually increase the damage or is it just for runes?
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Any good on a 60 ARC build? Really want to pair this with the threaded cane.
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I had such a hard time against Laurence, then i used this weapon in its transformed mode. Not only did i whoop his ass but his guts was all over the place (which is really satisfying when the boss has killed you like 100+ times
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So I went to dungeon 8i29rqz3, and instead of there being the bath messengers, patches was there instead. It would seem that once you befriend patches he replaces the bath messengers in dungeons, and his items don't cost anymore than buying it from the dungeon messengers.
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Can anyone get on coop with me and show me where it is. (PSN: SparksTheCat)
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Is there a legit, obscure way to get this right now, or did he hack it in somehow? Because he was definitely wielding it.
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Stop saying the weapon is op! I dont want this beautiful sexy piece of machinery to be nerfed!
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So I was walking along and to my surprise, and many other's i'd assume, a giant snail shell fell out of the sky. In this shell was a lady, who I am calling snail lady. If you use the L2 attack with teh saw it'll damage her slightly, waking her up. she then does nothing. Killing her grants no echos, and she respawns if you reload the area. WHO IS THE SNAIL LADY AND WHAT IS SHE FOR?
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French for "Saw-Mill". Wicked sick! A freaking buzz saw. Better start farming for your chunks.
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No official patch notes just a translation. But it seems the damage on this weapon was reduced. http://www.product-reviews.net/2015/12/02/bloodborne-1-08-update-notes-after-server-maintenance/
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Plain and simple. My fav DLC weapon since i first saw it on that trailer...but this thing is just OP. Should be nerfed.
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Is pretty much unbeatable in pvp, people just hold L2 for the win! Is there a way to parry or counter it?
Sigh...Power Kegs, you only had to do one thing, and one thing only: not give a massive circular chainsaw-mace a funny sounding name, and you blew it.....
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I just called a Pizza Cutter "Whirligig Saw" . . . I don't know whether or not this means I have been playing too much BB, but for now I am no longer maining the Pizza Cutter.
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Someone should write down in notes that you can fill your beasthood bar pretty quickly with L2 continious hits.
What, no love for this thing? I can't wait to give it a try!
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Wasn't super impressed with this weapon until I tried it on some bosses and realized how big the hitbox is on that saw blade. Swing it around without a care in the world and find that you are punishing boss weakspots for much easier visceral attacks and armor breaks. Give it a try.
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Was absolutely not excited for this thing judging by the trailer (boom hammer looked the sickest I think) but holy ***** it destroys everything. Beast or kin, before patch or after, it is the ultimate weapon. Currently cosplaying as Valtr and helping beckoners, even in NG++++ the L2 does like 5000 with one stamina bar. The true Beast Eater.
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Just wanted people to know that it`s S scaling is actually lower then kirkhammer A scaling. In number kirk gets more dmg from %phys. gems.
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just killed a invader with a beast rune and beast claws with two hits on them
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Not sure if it was intentional, but it looks like a lollipop to me.
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Considering how easy it is to get hits - is it worth trying to get poison gems on it? I can't find a purpose for those gems, so I'm just trying to find something.
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Happend to me quite a few times (once even with shadows of yharnam) that I killed an enemy with a full 2H L2 Charge and the corpse just fell out of the map. I once got a NPC hunter stuck underneath me and he couldnt attack me but I was able to attack him. :'D
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blunt form, saw blade form excellent scaling, versatile moveset and it can be buffed. reminds me of a character from borderlands 2.
These pizzas must be liquefied by now
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