Whirligig Saw


Imprints (Normal)


Imprints (Uncanny)


Imprints (Lost)

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The Whirligig Saw is a Trick Weapon in Bloodborne, introduced with The Old Hunters DLC. There are 3 versions of this weapon: Normal, Uncanny and Lost. The only known differences being the Gem Imprints and the locations in which they are found.


Whirligig Saw Description

"A trick weapon crafted by the workshop heretics, the Powder Kegs, and weapon of choice of the Old Hunter Valtr, the Beast Eater.
This weapon pummels beasts in its mace form, but its true strength lies in its attached mechanical saws.
These discs, lined with serrated teeth,spin rapidly, thrashing the flesh of beasts into fine shreds."


Whirligig Saw Information




  • From the Nightmare Church go down the stairs near the lamp, and drop down into the canal filled with some crows and follow the path until you reach the end where a snail woman falls down near the weapon. Go near the weapon and the path behind you will close.

Uncanny Whirligig Saw

  • If you have the normal version: Create Glyph 8i29rqz3 (Pthumeru Labyrinth) and buy from Bath Messengers up a ladder from the main room for 30,000 Blood Echoes.

Lost Whirligig Saw

  • If you have the normal version: Create Glyph 8i29rqz3 (Pthumeru Labyrinth) and buy from Bath Messengers up a ladder from the main room for 30,000 Blood Echoes.


Player Notes

  • This weapon is classed as serrated in its transformed mode.
  • Buzzsaw form seems capable of scoring multiple hits. In PvP, this makes the weapon ideal for punishing dodge-spammers.
    • It also is a good choice for Poison gems due to easily scoring multi-hits with many of its attacks, including its L2.
  • Press and hold L2 during transformed mode to perform continuous, multiple buzzsaw hits at the cost of stamina being consumed over time. This is capable of stun-locking most enemies for as long as the buzzsaw continues and is great for boss fights, as it allows cooperators to join in the attack and direct the foe's attention away from the person wielding the buzzsaw so they may safely retreat after running out of stamina.
  • When using the L2 attack in transformed mode, after the initial L2 thrust, the constant saw attack can be cancelled at any time. Meaning the user can hold the saw in place and maximize damage output all the while given the opportunity to dodge at the last second before the enemy can land a strike assuming they can poise through the Whirligig's attack.
  • A fully charged R2 will rear the weapon back and slam it on the ground, all the while accelerating the buzzsaw. The main damage source will come from the ground slam itself, meaning that you can miss the target and only do minor damage while simply sawing the ground near them. Make sure that the buzzsaw itself connects fully through the entire attack duration for maximum damage.






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Movesets & Videos

Regular Moveset
Move Damage Type & Modifier Stamina Effect
R1 Combo 1.00x, 1.04x, 1.08x, 1.13x 25 Diagonal horizontal slash from the right shoulder to the left foot, horizontal backhand swipe from left to right, followed by a backhand diagonal slash from the right shoulder to the left foot, then a forward thrust, another backhand diagonal slash, followed by a thrust.
Backstep R1 .93x 20 Performs a forward thrust.
Dodge R1 ?? ~ ?? ?? ~ ?? After the roll, performs a horizontal swipe from right to left.
Dash R1 1.13x 35 (+run) Performs a forward thrust.
R2 Attack 1.23x 40 Overhead vertical slam.
Charged R2 1.73x 70 Performs a powerful horizontal swipe from right to left.
Backstep R2 1.33x 35 Performs a sweeping uppercut from the right foot across the body.
Dodge R2 ?? ?? After the roll, performs a downward slam.
Dash R2 1.53x 50 Performs a downward slam.
Leap 1.60x 55 (+run) Performs a leaping ground slam.
Transform Attack 1.53x 45 (+x)  
Transformed Moveset
Move Damage Type & Modifier Stamina Effect
R1 Combo 1.33x, 1.37x, 1.49x 30 Alternates two horizontal swipes from different directions, followed by a thrust, an overhand vertical slam, then a horizontal swipe from right to left.
Backstep R1 1.33x 30 Performs a backhanded uppercut from the left foot to the right shoulder.
Dodge R1 ?? ~ ?? ?? ~ ?? Performs a forward thrust.
Dash R1 1.44x 35 (+run) Performs a backhand horizontal swipe moving from left to right.
R2 Attack 1.73x 50, 60 A horizontal and diagonal slash from the left shoulder to the right foot.
Charged R2 (30*3 + 180) ?? Performs a backhand overhead ground slam that appears to be a horizontal swipe at the beginning.
Backstep R2 (30*2+120) 40 Performs an overhand vertical slam.
Dodge R2 ?? ?? After the roll, performs a backhanded diagonal slash from the left shoulder to the right foot.
Dash R2 1.86x 55 (+run) Performs a dragging saw backhand vertical and slightly diagonal uppercut.
25+10+10 Hold to use spinning saw. Will inflict damage as long as it's spinning, consuming stamina. Release L2 to stop the spinning.
Leap 2.00x 55 Performs a backhand leaping ground slam.
Transform Attack (30*2+105) 50 (+x)  


  • If you use the L2 buzzsaw attack against Orphan of Kos and hold it in place, it attempts to make an immediate counterattack for each time it gets hit by the whirring blades, only to get interrupted by the next hit. It shrieks every time it attacks, so as a result, it lets loose dozens of overlapping shriek sound effects for as long as you hold it in place.
  • A whirligig is defined as a toy that is constantly spinning, such as a top or pinwheel, or as something regarded as hectic and constantly changing.
  • Similar to most Powder Keg weapons sharing homage to Armored Core weapons, the Whirligig Saw is based on the Grind Blade.
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    • Anonymous

      In my opinion, this is the best weapon in the game.

      It deals great damage on a STR build, it has a great moveset on both form, great reach on the tricked version and it deals serrated damage on the tricked version.
      When used correctly, the L2 can absolutely massacre enemies and bosses alike. The jumped R2 attack actually connects twice leading to a double hit on most enemies. It is absolutely insane.

      I just love this weapon.

      One side note, after reaching 50 STR, it is more interesting to invest in SKL to get more damage for this weapon instead of STR which is a bit strange for an S scaling weapon at +10.

      • Anonymous

        I’ve recently started my first strength build play through for return to yharnam and I now appreciate it. I have a +9 on my ng+ character but I don’t use it because
        1. I have a juiced out saw spear which I love
        2. I was a quality build but now my highest stat is Arcane because I wanted to use a call beyond.
        3. All my best bloodgems are on previously mentioned juiced out saw spear along with my saw spear being +10

        On my strength build I grabbed it as fast as possible so I could test it out and it’s amazing and a nice change of pace from being a skill/dex build in every souls game.

        • Anonymous

          I love this thing! Makes me feel like Jason Voorhees with a weed-whacker. Wish the game had a hockey mask to go with it!

          • Anonymous

            "Old-fashioned high-yield beast disposal saw blades. A classic choice for the savagely elegant Powder Kegs. A shame so few surviving examples remain operational, but if you should find one for yourself, then you'll get a good glimpse of how the mad inventors wheeled and dealed, and in such a brutally artistic manner, might i say!"

            • Anonymous

              Fun fact: you can see a trigger situated on the side of the mace, and when holding the L2, the hunter appears to be holding the trigger, likely meaning the sawblades are operated by said trigger.

              • Anonymous

                Why is it that a part of me takes a certain sadistic joy in grinding enemies into pieces with this thing?

                • Anonymous

                  great guy and he loves me very much and I am so glad to be able to help him out with the first time that happened and we were just trying to make sure we had a great time.

                  • Anonymous

                    This weapon is so good that I feel like it almost makes the game a little too easy, i guess thats a good thing?

                    • Anonymous

                      Hot take here: I think this weapons moveset is not as reliable as people may make it out to be, but it might just be my playstyle. I think the L2 is fine, but again, not that exceptional. If itd your first time playing, by all means, go for it. Its one of the best str weapons, and it can dish out a crap ton of serrated damage, as well as having a B scaling in arcane, making it a versatile weapon. I simply dont like its moveset, and I think the logarius wheel, or maybe the kirkhammer would be a better, safer option. Disagree if you want

                      • Anonymous

                        You spin me right round, baby right round, like an outlawed medieval torture device, right round, right round

                        • Anonymous

                          what is that shell thing with the white corpse looking thing coming out of it that hits the groung right before you pick up the whirligig saw

                          • Anonymous

                            I play for the first time Bloodborne. I have a 50 STR/ 25 SKI character and 50 VIT for a BL100. I force myself to play with Kirkhammer, because Whirligig Saw is OP. I can melt anything with it. And I destroy everyone in PVP. Even 3 vs 1. The scaling is very good. But the god part is the moveset. Magnificent range, speed but also swings. You can cover so much space with it. In comparison, the hammer moveset is so bad, and slow... the sword is good but not that powerful, and also shorter than the mace from the whirligig saw.

                            • Anonymous

                              B scaling in arcane at +10, which is on par with most church weapons. Does some wicked damage with the right arcane gems on a 99 arc build

                              • Anonymous

                                How the F is this a STR weapon? I went with a skill build because I thought all the brute, raw weapons will be STR, while all the technical weapons will be Skill. But it looks like I cucked myself big time. Literally all the interesting weapons are STR... Have fun throwing that cane or rifle spear around skilllet!

                                • Anonymous

                                  Boss: "I am unknowable; an eldrich horror that can drive weaker men to insanity with one gaze. You fools stand no chance of defeating me!" Guy with sharp pizza cutter: K

                                  • Anonymous

                                    The pizza cutter is my "tactical nuke" of sorts. When things seem impossible, whip out this beauty, and it cuts through every problem.

                                    • Anonymous

                                      I'm torn between doing an NG+ run with this bad boy, or making a new character and using the Moonlight Greatsword

                                      • Anonymous

                                        I used lots of tools for calculating Weapon AR. Kirkhammer have A scaling with STR, Whirligig Saw have S scaling. However, STR bonus always is higher in Kirkhammer. How is it even possible? With 40STR/40SKL, kirk get 149 from STR (A scaling) and 43 from SKL (E scaling). Whirligig get 148 from STR (S scaling) and 40 from SKL (D scaling) ... Why are smaller numbers with better scaling??

                                        • Anonymous

                                          This one and the Rakuyo are the perfect combination! The W Saw is devastating versus beast enemies, so I use cursed gems of 27,2% in it with the negative effect against kin. Viceversa, for the Rakuyo I use the same gems but with the opposite negative effect (lower damage versus beasts). And for PvP, both are greats! A very versatile movesets make them the Queens of Bloodborne.

                                          • Anonymous

                                            This weapon is the single most beautiful thing I have ever had the good fortune to lay my eyes on. The attack is great, the L2 is spectacular, and the running R2 makes you feel like an insane bloodsucking bat destroying all that stands in its way by doing nothing but shrieking and windmilling its arms around like a treant pretending to be an idiot pretending to be a tornado. It handles like a smooth jazz player jumping into the crowd after he just did an impromptu solo and I managed to down a certain Laurence in literally 2 tries with this weapon. It's just insane. Oh, and if you pair it with elemental or arcane damage it makes you resemble anything that looks like murder-jesus himself. So buckle up, get your ass over to the Nightmare, and-
                                            Oh, wait, it literally doesn't need any boss defeated to get. WHAT? THIS IS THE MOST AMAZING WEAPON OF ALL TIME!!?! Buy one now at 000-I-NEED-BETTER-WEAPONS-THAN-A-SAW-CLEAVER and get a stupid little whippy cane with it that you can throw in the fire!?
                                            So, yeah, I'd give it a nice 9/Giraffe.

                                            • Anonymous

                                              I noticed this weapon scales very nicely with arcane. Does having high arcane actually increase the damage or is it just for runes?

                                              • Anonymous

                                                I had such a hard time against Laurence, then i used this weapon in its transformed mode. Not only did i whoop his ass but his guts was all over the place (which is really satisfying when the boss has killed you like 100+ times

                                                • Anonymous

                                                  So I went to dungeon 8i29rqz3, and instead of there being the bath messengers, patches was there instead. It would seem that once you befriend patches he replaces the bath messengers in dungeons, and his items don't cost anymore than buying it from the dungeon messengers.

                                                  • Anonymous

                                                    Is there a legit, obscure way to get this right now, or did he hack it in somehow? Because he was definitely wielding it.

                                                    • Anonymous

                                                      So I was walking along and to my surprise, and many other's i'd assume, a giant snail shell fell out of the sky. In this shell was a lady, who I am calling snail lady. If you use the L2 attack with teh saw it'll damage her slightly, waking her up. she then does nothing. Killing her grants no echos, and she respawns if you reload the area. WHO IS THE SNAIL LADY AND WHAT IS SHE FOR?

                                                      • Anonymous

                                                        No official patch notes just a translation. But it seems the damage on this weapon was reduced. http://www.product-reviews.net/2015/12/02/bloodborne-1-08-update-notes-after-server-maintenance/

                                                        • Anonymous

                                                          Plain and simple. My fav DLC weapon since i first saw it on that trailer...but this thing is just OP. Should be nerfed.

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