Weapon Moveset Damage Comparison

Weapon Moveset Damage Comparison for Bloodborne Trick Weapons. This page was created with data and visualization provided by Xarius478 - make sure to thank him profusely for his great work! ^[1]

All tests were run with weapons at +10, three 27.2% physical attack gems, all offensive stats at 50, and on NG+9 against the villagers in Central Yharnam.
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Normal/1H mode:

Attack
R1	589, 604, 618, 632, 653	593, 607, 621, 636, 657	652, 652, 727, 802	548, 562, 575	552, 566, 588, 588, 588	403, 413, 425	536, 546, 555, 574, 593	584, 594, 604, 624, 644	524, 560, 536, 571	572, 572, 606, 641, 641	516, 550, 583, 617	596, 610, 625, 646, 668	516, 530, 544, 558, 573	719, 719, 719	457, 469, 480, 492, 503
Backstep R1	562	557	614	582	588	691	508	553	493	572	483	560	482	549	429
Rolling R1	554	557	614	582	661	691	508	553	493	606	449	560	449	549	429
Frontstep R1	554	557	614	582	661	691	508	553	493	606	449	560	449	549	429
Sidestep R1	589	593	614	582	621	691	508	553	493	641	449	560	449	592	429
Dash R1	653	657	728	682	698	633	630	684	590	641	449	663	551	761	457
R2	730	734	906	777	713	546	812	873	687	756	781	838	657	842	602
Charged R2	1170	1176	1342	1104	1038	974	978	1048	1066	1112	1135	1182	1122	1196	903
Backstep R2	660	664	872	679	753	863	677	733	622	743	680	772	658	761	569
Dash R2	764	769	973	841	784	863	768	828	654	689	650	852	623	843	602
Leaping R2	863	867	940	810	840	691	978	1048	840	871	931	933	865	960	745
L1	798	802	726	732	974	517	855	917	313	853	490	668	831	662

Transformed/2H mode:

Attack
R1	567, 589, 604	650, 654, 650, 664	691, 766, 691, 766, 802	554, 576, 591	624, 624, 639, 661	350, 350, 350, 546, 459, 471, 505, 505	812, 812	873, 873, 926	366, 461, 493	601, 623, 638, 654, 691	516, 550, 583, 617	575, 596, 610, 625	671, 687, 703, 722, 741
Backstep R1	554	525	652	591	661	633	307	433	493	654	483	560	630
Rolling R1	554	650	383	519	698	633	677	781	493	638	483	560	589
Frontstep R1	554	650	383	519	698	633	677	781	493	638	483	560	589
Sidestep R1	589	650	737	519	698	633	677	781	493	669	483	596	589
Dash R1	695	507	766	662	749	633	396	882	622	765	479	668	711
R2	764, 778	822	918	766, 766	874	691, 749	1019	1092	313	988	843	839	831
Charged R2	1048, 778	1071, 948	1007 + 872		1170		1875, 1141	1922, 1363		1483, 1265	1426	2209	1378
Backstep R2	668	720	874	732	875	807	812	926		849	781	927	831
Dash R2	730	720	1007	799	909	807	855	996		755	781	772	791
Leaping R2	798	821	973	799	875	691	978	1048	780	969	931	933	1072
L1	798	760	802	732	624	575	855	1101	590	601	749	596	831
L2			837, 838, 906		840, 735, 909, 909	691	937, 855, 1182	1005, 1005, 1031, 987		756, 836	525

Transformed/2H Logarius' Wheel:

Attack	0 Revs	1 Rev	2 Revs	3 Revs	4 Revs
R1	694, 694, 820	721, 721, 853	748, 748, 886	806, 806, 952	865, 865, 1105
Backstep R1	678	703	732	791	854
Rolling R1	678	703	732	791	854
Frontstep R1	678	703	732	791	854
Sidestep R1	678	703	732	791	854
Dash R1	678	703	732	791	854
R2	878	913	944	1026	1104
Backstep R2	856	890	927	1002	1083
Dash R2	761	791	821	884	949
Leaping R2	974	1013	1052	1133	1214
L1	228	228	228	228	228

Transformed/2H Beast Claw:

Attack	No Beasthood	Low Beasthood
R1	400, 457	568, 587
Backstep R1	400	503
Rolling R1	400	503
Frontstep R1	400	503
Sidestep R1	486	608
Dash R1	400	503
R2	660	810
Charged R2	953	1144
Backstep R2	544	677
Dash R2	515	642
Leaping R2	688	842
L1	602	745
L2	569	711

Firearms:

Range
Point blank	264	540	340	450	295	1424	190	208	176
Long	202	72	277	30	223	712	92	104

Using these numbers, I created a rough tier list of the damage output of the weapons. Note that this does not take attack speed or attack trajectory into account, and is primarily based on R1s.

These tiers are just meant to give an idea of how the raw damage compares, not to rate the weapons based on usefulness or DPS.
One-handed:

Top Tier: Logarius' Wheel, Transformed Tonitrus, Hunter Axe, Transformed Saw Spear
High Tier: Stake Driver, Transformed Stake Driver, Saw Cleaver, Saw Spear, Ludwig's Holy Blade, Chikage, Transformed Saw Cleaver
Middle Tier: Threaded Cane, Transformed Threaded Cane, Burial Blade, Kirkhammer, Rifle Spear
Low Tier: Reiterpallasch, Tonitrus
Bottom Tier: Blade of Mercy, Beast Claw, Transformed Reiterpallasch

Two-handed:

Top Tier: Ludwig's Holy Blade, Fully revved Logarius' Wheel, Kirkhammer
High Tier: Hunter Axe, Unrevved Logarius' Wheel
Middle Tier: Chikage, Burial Blade
Low Tier: Rifle Spear, Beasthood Beast Claw
Bottom Tier: No Beasthood Beast Claw, Blade of Mercy

Stray observations:

The third and fourth revs for the Logarius' Wheel seem to add a larger damage bonus than the first two. In addition, the weapon hits multiple times for some of its attacks. The damage listed is for all the hits combined.
The Beast Claw's 2H form is very reliant on having Beasthood; its damage is quite poor otherwise
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Disclaimer: As these tests are done with all offensive stats at 50, this might inflate the damage of quality weapons a bit in comparison to a typical level-capped PvP build.
In particular, Chikage's 2H form only requires 50 Bloodtinge to reach these numbers, but its 1H form requires 50 Strength and 50 Skill to reach the numbers listed here.
In addition, not every weapon's optimal gem configuration is three physical gems. For example, the transformed Tonitrus achieves higher numbers with three Nourishing gems, and the 2H Chikage achieves higher numbers with Bloodtinge gems.

^ Reddit Thread Here Republished with permission

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- Anonymous
  10 Apr 2024 09:20
  "These tables are sortable - click on the header to sort!"
  Clicks header, it opens weapon's page instead of sorting
  
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  So that was a f*cking lie :D
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- Anonymous
  05 Jul 2016 08:35
  I have 50 str and 30 skill and I do about 458 with no beasthood and 1354 with a full beasthood meter
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- Anonymous
  05 Jul 2016 08:35
  It is in need of it.
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- Anonymous
  05 Jul 2016 08:35
  Just so everyone knows, the first hit of the short form of Reiterpallasch has a damage nerf, which the following hits don't. In other words, every time you start attacking with it, your first hit will do notably less damage than your second, third, et cetera.
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- Anonymous
  05 Jul 2016 08:35
  So since 1.04 supposedly changed a lot of the weapon and tool stats how useful are these tables now? Like are they still mostly good or have the changes been drastic enough that we should just ignore them?
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- Anonymous
  05 Jul 2016 08:35
  This will cause much debate in the comments section but I am wondering what people favored weapon is for mine is the Chikage for it is fast and does high damage. I also like the rifle spear in the earlier game (before I get the Chikage). So just wondering what is your favored weapon.
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- Anonymous
  05 Jul 2016 08:35
  None of these are counter-hits, right? You get a damage multiplier for a lot of things in this game, and any of them would alter these figures.
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- Anonymous
  05 Jul 2016 08:35
  The Kirkhammer (while one of the coolest weapons imo) is outclassed by the LHB in almost every way. Might be a bit more useful considering the testing was done with both 50 STR and SKL which gives the LHB an advantage but still. Makes me sad :[
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- Anonymous
  05 Jul 2016 08:35
  I thought it was said to be the best scaling/damaging blood tinge gun... Why is it so low on the gun list then? I understand the cannon being higher but other guns scale off blood tinge... The other 3/4 guns do more damage than it apparently.. Huh O.o
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