Saw Cleaver is a Trick Weapon in Bloodborne.
Saw Cleaver Description
"One of the trick weapons of the workshop, commonly used in the hunting business.
This saw, effective at drawing the blood of beasts, transforms into a long cleaver that makes use of centrifugal force.
The saw, with its set of blood-letting teeth, has become a symbol of the hunt, and only grows in effectiveness the more grotesquely transformed the beast."
Saw Cleaver Information
- Transforms between a saw and an extended cleaver.
- Classified as Serrated while wielded in the default saw form.
Location
Normal
- It can be acquired as a gift from the Messengers the first time you visit the Hunter's Dream.
- If you don't select it, you may buy it after acquiring the Saw Hunter Badge in the tunnel with the giant pig (below the bridge to Father Gascoigne.)
Uncanny Saw Cleaver
- Pthumeru Root Chalice
- Glyphs:
- 462yygcg (Layer 1)
- vsj6fz28 (Layer 2)
- 2m2fxwm2 (Side area before boss, Layer 1)
Lost Saw Cleaver
- Lower Pthumeru Root Chalice
- Glyphs: 8cu74x96 (Side area before Layer 4 Boss, Rotted and Fetid Offering)
- Sinister Lower Pthumeru Chalice
- Glyphs: 6shtucek need offering Rotted: Inflicted organ x3 (layer 3, door before first bonfire )
- k52km3m3 - first layer side dungeon
- Glyphs: sd5tputs (Layer Three - Side area before Boss - Sinister Bell)
Player Notes
- The Saw Cleaver is one of two choices for a strength weapon when you are first starting off with a new character.
- It's also the only starter weapon that has a waning gem slot for its normal form.
- This weapon is a jack-of-all-trades in terms of combat, and is highly versatile against either single opponents or groups.
- The normal mode (saw form) is useful when dueling a single opponent.
- It utilizes very fast attacks that do not take alot of stamina.
- However, it has a short reach and is difficult to use against groups.
- When transformed, it takes the appearance of an extended cleaver.
- This form has superior range and several attacks that can strike whole groups at once.
- Like the normal form, it's wielded in one hand at all times.
- Keep in mind that this form also suffers a decrease in attack speed when compared to the normal form.
- Furthermore, remember that only the saw form deals extra damage against enemies vulnerable to serrated attacks.
- The follow up R2 after a fully charged R2 can knock some enemies down while the cleaver is extended.
- This trick weapon and the Saw Spear differs mainly by transformed move sets and STR/SKL scaling.
- The Saw Cleaver has superior strength scaling and deals serrated damage in saw form only.
- The Saw Spear has superior skill scaling and also deals serrated damage while in both forms.
Stats/Scaling
R: Rally/Regain. The amount of HP regained on an R1 attack immediately after taking damage
Move sets & Videos
Results from testing on an unarmored level 120 character with a +10 Saw Cleaver with no gems. Numbers are rounded to the nearest 100th.
Regular Move Set
| Move | Damage Type & Modifier | Stamina | Effect |
|---|---|---|---|
| R1 Combo |  1x, 1.02x, 1.04x, 1.06x, 1.09x |
20 | The character slashes from right to left, with combos altering direction. The first and second slashes fall in elevation while the third and fourth rise. Fast paced combo with short range |
| Quickstep R1 | 0.95x |
27 | The character steps forward quickly and slashes from left to right for all quicksteps except to the right. For that step the slash is from right to left. |
| Backstep R1 | 0.95x |
25 | After leaping back, the character leaps forward and slashes from right to left from a crouched position |
| Dash R1 | 1.09x |
30 (+run) | The weapon is brought from left to right and somewhat downward. Very short range but the character takes a leaping step forward. |
| R2 Attack | 1.20x |
35 | The weapon is brought back behind the character and after a short delay, brought from right to left in a quick slashing motion. A big step with the right foot is taken to help close the distance to enemies. |
| Charged | 1.90x |
50 | Very similar to the R2 attack but with a longer windup (but a relatively short windup for a charge attack). The attack still goes from right to left, but on a diagonal rather than horizontal path. |
| Dash R2 | 1.25x |
45 | Essentially the same attack animation as the standard R2, however the delay before swiping the weapon is shorter. The character remains running until the actual swing occurs, meaning this attack does very well to keep the player in stride |
| Backstep R2 | 1.10x |
35 | The weapon is brought near the ground to the left side and raised violently upward while hopping forward |
| Leap | 1.40x |
50 (+run) | The player jumps forward a short distance and raises the weapon overhead, bringing it down to attack during the landing. This attack nearly sweeps the ground. |
| Transform Attack | 1.30x |
23 (+x) | This attack appears like it would hit twice, but only provides one hit. The character brings the closed weapon forward into a punch and it extends to strike while out in front of you. The damage is caused by the weapon opening. Due to a fairly short range during transformation, this is best used with a quickstep toward your enemy. |
Transformed Move Set
| Move | Damage Type & Modifier | Stamina | Effect |
|---|---|---|---|
| R1 Combo | 0.97x, 1.00x, 1.02x |
24 | Starting from overhead, the character brings the blade down mostly vertically and then back up, repeating this until stamina is exhausted. Despite the extra length and seemingly large size of the weapon, combos are relatively fast. This combo also works well in narrow passages or near walls where horizontal strikes may be deflected |
| Quickstep | 0.95x |
30 | The character steps forward quickly and slashes from right to left if moving forward, backward or right. While stepping to the left, the blade is brought from left to right. |
| Backstep R1 | 0.95x |
25 | This looks very similar to the quickstep animation moving forward or right but the attack arc is narrower. That is, it's a right to left slash, but shorter. |
| Dash R1 | 1.15x |
30 (+run) | The blade is brought low to the ground and then, in a windmill motion brought overhead and back down |
| R2 Attack | 1.25x, 1.27x |
38 | The character makes a large sweep from right to left horizontally, and back again from left to right for a combo. This attack has a wider attack arc, making crown control easier with this move than with the R1 set |
| Charged | 1.70x |
50 | Very similar to the R2 but with a long wind up. The attack comes out very quickly after the windup |
| Follow up attack (after Charged) | 1.27x |
50 | Following the charged attack, pressing R2 will have the character spin and bring the blade overhead and down |
| Backstep R2 | 1.10x |
37 | The weapon is brought up in front of the face to overhead and brought swiftly down in a vertical strike ending with a smash into the ground |
| Dash R2 | 1.20x |
45 (+run) | The dashing R2 is nearly identical to the standing one. |
| Leap | 1.30x |
50 | Unlike many leaping attacks, the player slashes from right to left horizontally instead of a downward attack. The attack is still useful for closing short distances |
| Transform Attack | 1.30x |
30 (+x) | The weapon is brought back behind the player where it snaps shut and promptly brought forward in a punching motion |
Trivia
- The Saw Cleaver is the Trick Weapon featured on the title screen.
- It was also one of the first weapons to be revealed for this game.
- Overall the mechanisms of this weapon didn't change at all, starting all the way back when Bloodborne was still known as "Project Beast."
- According to the concept art, the Saw Cleaver uses a trigger mechanism to unlock the joint during transformation.
- The design of the Saw Cleaver seems to be inspired by multiple references:
- The transformed cleaver shows a resemblance to LB-66 MOONLIGHT from Armored Core V.
- The Japanese name is written as "nokogiri nata" (ノコギリ鉈) or "nokogiri hatchet". Nokogiri is a traditional Japanese saw that cuts from the pull stroke, as opposed to the more common push stroke.
- In real life, there is a type of cleaver known as a mezzaluna ("half moon") cleaver, known for chopping/mincing up various food products.
- Most of these types of cleavers have handles on both ends.
- However, some use a single handle that stretches across the blade, which was used to chop up herbs usually; the saw cleaver follows this particular model.
- .Henryk uses this weapon when he fights you and Eileen the Crow during her questline, as well as when he is summoned by you when using the Old Hunter Bell.
Gallery
| Trick Weapons |
Amygdalan Arm ♦ Beast Claw ♦ Beast Cutter ♦ Beasthunter Saif ♦ Blade of Mercy ♦ Bloodletter ♦ Blunderbuss ♦ Boom Hammer ♦ Burial Blade ♦ Cannon ♦ Chikage ♦ Church Cannon ♦ Church Pick ♦ Evelyn ♦ Fist of Gratia ♦ Flamesprayer ♦ Gatling Gun ♦ Holy Moonlight Sword ♦ Hunter's Torch ♦ Hunter Axe ♦ Hunter Blunderbuss ♦ Hunter Pistol ♦ Kirkhammer ♦ Kos Parasite ♦ Loch Shield ♦ Logarius' Wheel ♦ Ludwig's Holy Blade ♦ Ludwig's Rifle ♦ Piercing Rifle ♦ PVE Builds and Weapons Review ♦ Rakuyo ♦ Reiterpallasch ♦ Repeating Pistol ♦ Rifle Spear ♦ Rosmarinus ♦ Saw Spear ♦ Serrated Weapons ♦ Simon's Bowblade ♦ Stake Driver ♦ Threaded Cane ♦ Tonitrus ♦ Uncanny Chikage ♦ Weapon Moveset Damage Comparison ♦ Whirligig Saw ♦ Wooden Shield |
- Tested in PvP, naked characters, BL 120 with maxed weapon
- Tested in PvP, naked characters, BL 120 with maxed weapon
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I've played this game so many times and got to say it is a rely good weapon
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Uncanny Saw Cleaver: Chamber of the Seal side door; pkxjk6rr
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Lost saw cleaver in lower pthumerian depth 3, first area. Nkuwf5gh. Conductor is soxfan8491084
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Bloodborne truly is the biggest innovation in Fromsoft history. You used to spam r1, Now you can do it with l1!
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tbh the saw cleaver is too op for the beginning of bloodborne and only filthy casuals use it the entire game. the threaded cane is where its at and is the only good weapon in this toxic game. ds2 had the best weapon variety ever and honesty this game can't match ds2.
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It's so wild to me that one of the most powerful weapon is just handed to you as first weapon
High attack speed, average stun, High base damage to relatively low scaling, with hidden serrated damage that do more damage to 60% of the enemies, and with no resistance to it.
I feel like it being found as one of the three first weapon was a mistake and it was intended to be the saw spear or saif instead.
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This chunk of iron carried me though on my frist playthrough, I've even beat Orphan on my first try with this weapon. I think it's worthy to be on the game's cover art.
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Uncanny Cleaver discovered in Pthumerian Labyrinth Depth 1 in side area past final second layer lantern.
Glyph is 523gmc64
Not sure how much enemy type and placement is affected between players in the same dungeon, but I had a lot of annoyances.
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I tried a lot of weapons in this game
Nothing compare ....nothing compares toooo yooou
Saw cleaver
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For the longest time, I only used R1s... But now, I'm addicted to L1s
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uncanny cleaver in depth 1 pthumeru, coffin in the first pre-lamp area 3kjq9gia
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Saw cleaver
Hunter pistol
I have no need for such crude weapons for I am a Kung fu master.... GET OVER HERE WEREWOLF!!
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The chatacter holds this weapon extremely weird in it's transformed state. He holds it all the way at the bottom of the handle, it would be impossible to wield like that and looks strange. He doesn't hold it like that in any promotional material, and the saw spear is held normal so idk why this weapon is like that. Never seen anyone else mention this but once you notice it you can't unsee it.
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Pthumerian Depth 1 for uncanny, right before layer one: duy9t3vv
just made this one, pretty pog
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To everyone who may be wondering why this weapon was bandaged (similar to Ludwig's Holy Blade): this is to prevent blood from flowing onto the handle and making the weapon unwieldy. Either that or some completely over-the-top hunter in the workshop thought it looked really cool.
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This is weapon is so good, that its the cover art of the game.
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Is the Uncanny version just different gems or does it have something else different?
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bloodborne = saw cleaver
dark souls = long sword
i've never used any other weapon.
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Pros:
-Best damage
-You get to be like the guy in the trailer
Cons:
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I just made a root chalice and got one from layer 2 ( jgc4ficz )
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Over 4 years and I'm still thinking "hey, I'm like the guy from the trailer"
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This is basically the stapleboy of the game, and that’s one of the main reasons I use it a lot
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is there any difference between the regular saw cleaver and a lost saw cleaver? i can't seem to find ANY difference
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My go-to beast-killing weapon. I have bunch of the best fire-gems in it, and it kills most beasts (including zombie-werewolves of Yahar'gul and depth 5 scourge beasts) with max 5 hits. I even killed the boss Loran Silverbeast in about 10 seconds, give or take a few. Great weapon.
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Found easy Lost Saw Cleaver in Fetid/Rotted Lower Pthumeru Chalice before first Lantern in side area. Glyph is 5irzfnzq.
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This is basically BBs version of the longsword. Works well for everything in the game, but not necessarily the best at anything other than r1 spam.
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For some reason I can purchase this at the bath messengers in the hunter's dream, quite queer...
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I feel like the attack descriptions on this wiki need a severe makeover. Instead of writing a paragraph describing each combo, there should really be a simple list of attack types, velocities, ranges, and where the combo loops. Maybe something like this?: TRANSFORMED R1 (ATK Type): Reg, [Reg, Thr...] (Velocity): Diag, [Ver, Thr...] (Range): Med (Brackets indicate which portion of the combo is repeated. Ellipses denote that the combo can be continued.) ...This isn’t describing an actual weapon in the game, but Saw Cleaver’s moveset isn’t complex enough to show what I mean. Would this be less confusing for users? or should we stick to paragraphs? Can be modified as needed, or include special info with use of an asterisk.
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Some people say it's the best weapon in the game. I think while it (and the Saw Spear, its apples or oranges.) have unmatched DPS, which is why the speedrunners run it obviously, I think it's a bit overrated by some myself.
NOT saying it's bad because obviously it's not, it's crazy good; but some people make it out to be like there's no point to using anything else. It's good but its moveset is pretty straightforward too, which I guess is a big draw for some people but I actually think certain other weapons have an easier time against certain monsters, and it's really an all or nothing weapon in PvP if you can ever get that.
So in other words, the cover art weapon of Bloodborne will take you anywhere with its DPS and ease of use, but when all is said and done it's a pretty simple weapon which can be a bonus or a detriment depending on the person and situation.
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Set some fire blood gems in this baby. With a decent arcane build this weapon is nasty.
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So you ever think about how the Saw Cleaver is just an oversized, serrated straight razor, literally used for "cutting through beast hide?" And how barbers in the 19th century worked alongside doctors as bloodletting surgeons, believing that the removal of tainted blood was the most reliable cure for disease?
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Found uncanny saw cleaver in pthumeru root dungeon, first layer. zyrbkgxj
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Hey, I just got an uncanny saw cleaver from 2nd layer before lantern on this dungeon. kxpgrjj4
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In Nightmare frontier you can get cursed droplets from lanterns, up to 11% pdmg or so.
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any know where to get a good physical% gem to put in its 3rd sloot early game? (waning gem slot) I am already at "the one reborn" and haven't find a better gem that the one I get from Gascoigne daughter.
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It's the balder side sword of Bloodborne. Except better in every way.
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Found an uncanny saw cleaver when creating a random chalice while waiting for my friend.I'll keep it up and active for any new players and characters interestedGlyph: dyh2ky2aHost: SandraWhere: Layer 2 pre-boss bonus roomAren't these weapons supposed to be rare? I found at least one on every dungeon so far.
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Found a lost saw cleaver and an uncanny rifle spear on my first ever sinister, that i create for fun and pvp!I'll keep it up and active for any new players and characters interestedGlyph: 6di5przmHost: Edward Edgy McWhere: Layer 1 pre-boss bonus roomAlso: Uncanny Rifle Spear on layer 2 pre-boss bonus room.It's a SINISTER Lower Pthumeru, so make sure you can join sinister dungeons before joining.If you cant, just create any dungeon with sinister rites and it will unlock.
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How many saw cleavers can I buy and store? 99? 600? Srs question please respond
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Pthumeru Root Chalice, layer 1 after opening the gate but before the bossGlyph: ut8p68hr
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this should be a quality weapon with a double D on scaling at the very least
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I can't speak for myself, but word is that people are feeling like the Saw Cleaver has a hidden damage modifier of some sort, as the weapon especially late game seems to do a lot more damage than its on-paper stats would suggest, with or without gems. Could be something unintentional, or maybe it's just people's imaginations but this is a sentiment I've seen from more than one person.
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Is it viable as an end game weapon? Because I want to keep this beauty as a my main for as long as possible.
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What many might have missed and don't really know, is the there is a hidden secondary charge attack: R2-R2 hold In other words you can attack once with R2 and then charge the 2nd R2 - giving new charge up animation. What more you can do this: R2-R2hold-R2 this ends in the same flattening knockdown certical strike. Try it! Other than that Dash(left)+R1 is a delayed strike with huge reach a d high damage. Dash-right is different. Try dashing (locked) sideways and attacking it's amazing. Finaly this weapon is great vs many bosses and has a good stun locking capabilities and tracking.
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Does anyone els notice something? That the base damage of this this is just 30 lower than that of the Kirkhammer?! Jezus man this thing is a beast.
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Having done multiple playthroughs now, I'm fairly convinced this is actually one of the best weapons in the game. Top 3 at least. Before anyone says anything, every weapon is viable yes, I made a whole build centered around the Stake Driver. That said though, you're always gonna have some that are a little better than others and this thing is just perfect. Its moveset is just perfectly designed, from that insanely fast retracted R1 that almost reminds me of DkS Falchion, a solid retracted R2, to wide swinging arcs and vertical chops in extended mode with its charged R2 having a followup that even knocks down. On full Str builds especially this thing just shreds the game up and it just has a move for every situation. I almost think at +10 on a build like this, its damage is maybe too high (not to mention hidden modifiers) for how fast it is. It's one case where C scaling in STR I think is justified. About it's only flaw I guess is maybe some find it "boring", cause its' the "canon" weapon on the cover? I dunno, but easily one of the most effective, no BS weapons in the game.
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The saw cleaver has a secondary charged R2 attack in its transformed state in which the player swings it left to right and does a clockwise spin for the follow-up(with the normal charge the character goes counter-clockwise). The secondary charge attack leads with the saw edge,as apposed the normal charge which use the smooth cleaver side,but I do not know if it adds the serration bonus(I don't have the patience to test this for myself,just sharing my observations).The follow-up to this uses the standard cleaver edge and acts much the same as the standard follow-up. You can use it after 1,3,5,ect. R1s, a short R2, use it in an R2, or use it after the original R2 follow-up combo. If someone wants to test for a serration bonus that'd help as I don't know how much it is to begin with. If someone has covered this already then whatever, but I haven't seen anything about it so I thought I would say something. :)
Not sure if it's worth noting, but the transformed R2 charge attack can be done 4 times in a row with a different move each time (it does that right to left swipe, then the slam, then left to right swipe, then another slam)
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Glyph: 8tjfc79q Rotted Lower Pthumerian Labyrinth [Fetid] [Rotted] Layer Three - Long Sarcophagus chest. Guarded by 3 Undead (2 Pike Undead, 1 short sword) and 1 Shield Warrior (??, Big armor guy, long 2h-sword, omage to DkS, shield variant)
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Uninteresting as it looks, this weapon is actually one of the beastliest in the game, in term of DPS. The damage multipliers are just fantastic. The speed, as it being a light weapon, is remarkable. The stamina consumption per strike is ridiculously low. All these points make it an ideal weapon for R1-spamming in PvE. An extremely powerful weapon against bosses, no doubt it is. Still, there's a new weapon in the upcoming DLC, a one-handed Burial-cleaver sort. I am much intrigued to see how it performs in both PvE and PvP.
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So anyone else think it's hillarious the final scaling on the main weapon in the game is CDC? I guess it really was meant to control disease.
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Can someone search the actual display icon for the saw cleaver its a click away from google please and thank you.
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It reminds me of the long sword just a basic weapon that will get you through anything probaly just my love for the long sword tho
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Pthumerian labyrinth 9jku8k3d. Right before boss fight with maneater pig.
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Just picked up the Uncanny Cleaver from the listed dungeon last night. Looks like that might be a better option than the starter Cleaver for primarily +Physical damage blood gems because of the Triangle imprint, then?
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Glyph is: wm9uwmrr It is in the bonus room before the second boss.
Found it in a rotted lower pthumerian dungeon with both offerings.
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Kind of a tricky one because it has some seriously big rooms and those fat ass rolling watcher pthumerians guarding more than one level. Keep in mind that the third level is also a sinister bell level.
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Glyph is jr45i696. If I remember correctly, it's at the bonus room before the boss fight.
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Has any one noticed what looks like writing on both sides of the saw cleavers blade???
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1st layerror and 1st bonus door on lower pthumerian (no offerings) hw3kwfj8
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Not sure if anyone else has posted this here because it isn't in the trivia. But it seems like an obvious reference to a cut-throat razor, only much bigger.
This is one of my favorite weapons in the game.
Someone below had a post that showed the irony of the scaling's abbreviation. It's not really true trivia, but it's too funny and coincidental to not have in the trivia part IMHO.
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pthnumeru root chalice 1st layer, 1st treasure room kefkujfx
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So uhh....I'm about to start the DLC content soon and still using this, am I doing something wrong or is this just the classic effect of refusing to let the starter weapon go ?
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