This page contains lore theories by Rakuyo. Please understand these are musings and interpretations by a player, and are not to be taken as official or representative of other's views.
Lore of The Moon Presence
2. The Moon Presence and Gehrman
3. The Legacy Of Byrgenwerth
4. The Holy Medium Of Blood Healing
5. Nyarlathotep And The Moon Presence
6. Symbols and The Moon Presence
7. Explaining "Formlessness" With Caryll Runes And Tarot Cards
8. The Moon Presence And "Nahr Alma"
9. The World Egg
10. The Moon Presence & Lord Griffith
The Moon Presence is the architect behind the Hunter's Dream. Hiding within the dream, it reveals itself only after the player defeats Gehrman .
After becoming visible, it embraces the Hunter, wrapping its tentacles around him/her . In the next scene, the Hunter is confined to a wheelchair .
"And so, the hunt begins again." - Plain Doll.
If the Hunter manages to "use" 3 One Third Umbilical Cords before the end of the Gehrman boss fight, he/she will break through the embrace .
This will initiate the final boss fight against The Moon Presence. Defeating it unlocks the secret ending: "Childhood's Beginning ".
The Moon Presence is thought to be the manifestation of the Blood Moon . Several Lore Notes point to the importance of this Moon.
The Moon Presence is first mentioned by name inside the Lecture Building, there are another three important ones in the Lecture Building.
1. "The nameless moon presence beckoned by Laurence and his associates. Paleblood." - Lecture Building
2. "Three third cords." - Lecture Building
3. "Hunt the Great Ones, Hunt the Great Ones." - Lecture Building
4. "Master Willem was right. Evolution without courage will be the ruin of our race." - Lecture Building
In Yahar'gul, a Lore Note bespeaks the existence of "madmen" who aim to beckon The Moon. This is the Mensis Ritual .
1. "Madmen toil surreptitiously in rituals to beckon the moon. Uncover their secrets." - Yahar'gul, Unseen Village
2. "Behold! A Paleblood sky!" - Yahar'gul, Unseen Village - This note links the sky of Yahar'gul to Paleblood.
3. "The Mensis ritual must be stopped, lest we all become beasts." - Yahar'gul - The Mensis Ritual is connected to the Scourge of Beasts.
4. "Nightmarish rituals crave a newborn. Find one, and silence its harrowing cry." - Yahar'gul - In order to stop the Mensis Ritual, the Hunter must "silence" Mergo.
The Mensis Ritual that beckons the Blood Moon is concealed by the spider Rom, who encased Yharnam in a web of deception.
1. "The spider hides all manner of rituals, certain to reveal nothing, for true enlightenment need not be shared." - Byrgenwerth
2. "The Byrgenwerth spider hides all manner of rituals, and keeps our lost master from us. A terrible shame. It makes my head shudder uncontrollably." - Cathedral Ward
The Blood Moon is directly connected to the Scourge of Beasts and when it is beckoned, a womb will be blessed with child.
1. "When the red moon hangs low, the line between man and beast is blurred. and when the Great Ones descend, a womb will be blessed with child." - Byrgenwerth
2. "The red moon hangs low, and beasts rule the streets. Are we left no other choice, than to burn it all to cinders?" - Old Yharnam
3. "To escape this dreadful Hunter's Dream, halt the source of the spreading scourge of beasts, lest the night carry on forever." - Hunter's Dream
4. "The Mensis ritual must be stopped, lest we all become beasts." - Yahar'gul, Unseen Village
5. "Seek paleblood to transcend the hunt." - Central Yharnam - To "transcend the hunt" the Hunter must seek the Paleblood associated with The Moon Presence.
In The Lumenflower Garden, of The Upper Cathedral Ward controlled by The Choir, one can still find statues that show The Moon Presence in its true form .
The same figure is found on a magic elevator within The Nightmare Frontier , . The Moon Presence may be connected to the creatures of this freakish realm.
The Moon Presence also appears in etchings found in Old Yharnam, hidden inside them, which is discussed under Blood-starved Beast & Old Yharnam (Lore).
At some point, The Moon Presence conceived The Hunt. It isn't known exactly why, but when the Moon hangs low, Hunters are sent to kill Beasts.
There to lend a hand is Gehrman. Though he holds the title of "First Hunter", Gehrman is only a servant of The Moon Presence, one charged with a chilling task.
The Moon Presence and Gehrman
Little is known of Gehrman's past, but he proved himself a great inventor of weapons and protective garbs. He is also the founder of "The Workshop ".
Gehrman's Burial Blade served as the archetype for all later Trick Weapons, while his personal attire inspired a whole generation of Hunter Sets .
His title of First Hunter marks Gehrman as a pioneer and first hunter of Yharnam. "The Hunt" on the other hand, may be much much older.
Norse mythology tells the tale of Odin , god-king and "discoverer of the runes". Discoverer, not inventor, for runes were even older than the gods.
The Bloodborne godking "Oedon" is no doubt derived from Odin, likewise, Bloodborne contains runes, and Souls has always taken ideas from Norse mythology.
Runes are the primordial words that form the true language of the universe. They are words of power, their mastery allows one to command the universe.
In like manner, the runes of Bloodborne are never described as being invented or created, they are described as discovered or "transcribed".
"This transcription of the Great Ones' inhuman voices ripples like a watery reflection." - The Lake Runes
"This transcription of the Great Ones' inhuman voices depicts downreaching currents." - The Sea Runes
"A transcription of the roar of a labyrinth beast," - Beast
"A transcription of Eye, as spoken by left-behind Great Ones." - Eye
"A transcription of Moon, as spoken by the Great Ones inhabiting the nightmare." - Moon
"After the repeated experiments in controlling the scourge of beasts, the gentle Embrace rune was discovered. - Beast's Embrace
"A Caryll rune discovered by the old hunter Ludwig, along with the Holy Moonlight Sword. - Guidance
"A Caryll Rune that transcribes inhuman sounds. - a sentence found on Clawmark, Impurity, Blood Rapture, Oedon Writhe and Hunter
To transcribe means "to translate", "to duplicate", "to decipher" and "to reproduce". Incidentally, "transcription" refers to the reading and expressing of DNA.
What this wording suggests is that the runes exist outside human language and that Caryll Runes are actually just workable translations or replicas at best.
If Caryll Runes are like the runes of Norse mythology, then every one of these "words" has existed since the dawn of time, and may even have existed prior.
If that's the case, then the word "Hunter" has always existed, and it means that "Hunter" is a concept embedded in the fabric of the Bloodborne universe.
If "Hunter" has existed since the dawn of time, then Gehrman's title of "First Hunter" may be more of a moniker, or Gehrman is a lot older than he seems.
It's impossible to know how far back Hunters go, and there are even indications that the medieval Pthumerian culture deployed its own brand of Hunters.
Known as The Labyrinth Madmen , these men afflicted with the Beast Scourge used serrated weapons , to deal with the Beasts of The Labyrinth.
Gehrman is a servant of The Moon Presence and he will eventually try and kill you, but Gehrman himself laments his fate.
Outside his house, if one has 15 Insight or above and Amelia is met:
"Oh, Laurence... what's taking you so long... I've grown too old for this, of little use now, I'm afraid..."
Outside his house after defeating Rom, The Vacuous Spider:
"Oh, Laurence... Master Willem... Somebody help me... Unshackle me please, anybody...
I've had enough of this dream... The night blocks all sight... Oh, somebody, please... "
On the Wheel Hunter Badge, it is stated that the wheel represents destiny, this could mean the wheelchair stands for Gehrman now being bound to fate.
Should you defeat Gehrman without using 3 Umbilical Cords, The Moon Presence will trap you and place you in the wheelchair instead.
Likely you are then bound to gather more Hunters, train them, then slay them after The Hunt. Such is the will of The Moon Presence.
The Legacy Of Byrgenwerth
"Beast hunting is a sacred practice, our prey might differ, but we are hunters, the both of us."
"Oh, beg pardon, you may call me Alfred, Protege of Master Logarius, hunter of Vilebloods."
"Well, once a group of young Byrgenwerth scholars discovered a holy medium deep within the tomb."
"This led to the founding of the Healing Church, and the establishment of blood healing".
"In this sense, everything sacred in Yharnam can be traced back to Byrgenwerth." - Alfred
All the horrific events unfolding at Yharnam can be traced back to Byrgenwerth, the tomb of the old gods , carved out below Yharnam.
"Byrgenwerth" is composed of two German words: "bergen" which means "to bury" or "to hide" and the other, "werth", which translates to "worth".
The Byrgenwerth area has clearly been subject to excavation, as evidenced by numerous dug up skeletons and exposed sediment layers .
What these findings represent is unclear. Most of the skeletons appear human, but the others have the appearance of large wolves or small horses.
They are decisively interesting either way, as nigh identical skeletons appear in The Nightmare of Mensis , attached to "Amalgam Plumes ".
The bones were presumably refined into tar , and transported across Yharnam , possibly in order to create Cramped Caskets .
Such rituals may have been what initially instigated the Beast Scourge, and recalls images of Bone Towers and the Skeleton Beasts of Nito.
Dead ending up encased in stone is a recurrent motif of Souls catacombs , and persisted significantly in The Phumerian Labyrinth .
The tale of the forest bones may be scripture to the Healing Church, for all over Yharnam, reappears this motif of people with animals .
Owing to the half man - half quadruped figures within it, I labeled this motif: "The Centaur Scene". It may portray the occurrences at Byrgenwerth.
Another engraving is tied even closer to Byrgenwerth. I labeled it "The Forest Scene ", and it shows humans meeting a great deer in a forest
The giant tombstones on the left , and the trees on the right, indicate that this event took place inside the Forbidden Woods of Byrgenwerth.
"Byrgenwerth is an old place of learning. And the tomb of the gods, carved out below Yharnam, should be familiar to every hunter."
"Well, once a group of young Byrgenwerth scholars discovered a holy medium deep within the tomb."
"But today, the college lies deep within a tangled wood, abandoned and decrepit.
And furthermore, the Healing Church has declared Byrgenwerth forbidden ground." - Alfred
There is confusion among lore enthusiasts in regards to the nature of both the "holy medium" and "the tomb of the gods" where it was found.
The most popular theory is that "the tomb of the gods" refers to neither Byrgenwerth nor the Forbidden Woods, but to an area underneath it.
"Willem, Laurence, Micolash, Gehrman, Maria, and Carryl were individuals at the Byrgenwerth College,
an institution dedicated to the furthering of knowledge and the exploration of the massive Labyrinth built underground.
It was in this Labyrinth that the scholars made the discovery that put every event in Bloodborne into motion.
Indeed, the entire history of Bloodborne can be traced to a single defining moment,
in which The Scholars discovered something deep inside the ancient Pthumerian Crypts.
The Executioner Alfred muses that ”Once a group of young Byrgenwerth scholars discovered a holy medium deep within the tomb.
This led to the founding of the Healing Church, and the establishment of blood healing.”
Deep inside the Labyrinth, the Scholars discovered the Old Blood.
It is unclear exactly what was found, but in the upper level of the Byrgenwerth mansion we can find the Empty Phantasm Shell.
"Empty invertebrate shell that is said to be a familiar of a Great One.
The Healing Church has discovered a great variety of invertebrates, or phantasms, as they are called."
Whatever was found, it was proof of the existence of the Great Ones." - Redgrave
The general thesis is that "the tomb of the gods" refers to The Labyrinth and that people began digging out The Labyrinth at Byrgenwerth.
It's a good enough idea: The Labyrinth is a place where Great Ones are "buried", and labyrinths are designed like catacombs .
Furthermore, The Labyrinth is effectively referred to as the "tomb of the gods" by the Pthumeru Chalice.
"Ritual chalice found in the Church of the Good Chalice.
Use in a ritual at the tomb altar in the Hunter's Dream to break the seal of the old underground labyrinth.
Let the chalice reveal the tomb of the gods; let blood be the hunter's nourishment. - Pthumeru Chalice
There is, however, uncertainty in regard to what Alfred actually says, as "tomb of the gods", may actually refer to The Forbidden Woods.
"Byrgenwerth is an old place of learning. And the tomb of the gods, carved out below Yharnam, should be familiar to every hunter."
"Well, once a group of young Byrgenwerth scholars discovered a holy medium deep within the tomb."
"This led to the founding of the Healing Church, and the establishment of blood healing".
"In this sense, everything sacred in Yharnam can be traced back to Byrgenwerth."
"But today, the college lies deep within a tangled wood, abandoned and decrepit. And furthermore, the Healing Church has declared Byrgenwerth forbidden ground."
"It's unclear how many of its scholars remain alive...but only they know the password that allows passage through the gate." - Alfred
The Byrgenwerth area does show signs of excavation, there are countless bones , and there are many barrels, filled with a dark tar-like substance .
Breaking them reveals the barrels to be filled with skulls . I believe this is because the tar contains the bones dug up from The Forbidden Woods .
The area is full of gigantic tombstones , described by the art book as "Great One graves ", and Great One graves entail a tomb of the gods.
The tar filled barrels are found inside a windmill , which suggests that the windmill was used in the context of a refinery or a quarry.
The Forbidden Woods may even derive from "Earthen Peak ", a DS2 area where windmills where used to process poison.
What cannot be found in Byrgenwerth, or The Forbidden Woods, are the tunnels where the underground digging may have taken place.
All excavation in the Byrgenwerth area seems to involve superficial digs, no tunnels. Neither are there any Pthumerian relics in the area.
Redgrave suggests that these tunnels do exist, but that they're located beneath a trapdoor found within the Byrgenwerth facility .
For me this is quite a stretch, there is no way of knowing what's beneath the trapdoor and there are no signs of digging near the Byrgenwerth facility itself.
If they were digging there, there'd be debris, barrels, transports, but Byrgenwerth is the cleanest site in the area, with nothing there indicating manual labor.
The theory is itself illogical, because why would anyone excavate a ruin, from a single hole, from inside the Bloodborne equivalent of a university building?
That still leaves Alfred's strange phrasing:
"Byrgenwerth is an old place of learning. And the tomb of the gods, carved out below Yharnam, should be familiar to every hunter." - Alfred
If the Byrgenwerth area is the tomb of the gods, then it must be below Yharnam, and it must be carved out or Alfred's statement isn't true.
As bizarre as it sounds, the whole area around Byrgenwerth may have been carved out of the mountain, as indicated by the sedimentary rock .
There are signs of digging, the barrels do show some kind of material being transported, the windmills may have been used to process hard materials.
The area is teeming with tombstones, giant ones , and little ones , all of which goes unexplained if you count out the tomb of the gods explanation.
And the Byrgenwerth area does lie below Yharnam , not in a subterranean sense, but in the sense that an area might lie below a mountain or volcano.
This would have required an enormous effort, carving out the whole of Byrgenwerth, but not impossible considering the massive scale of Yharnam's architecture.
The Holy Medium Of Blood Healing
"Well, once a group of young Byrgenwerth scholars discovered a holy medium deep within the tomb." - Alfred
This "holy medium" was found in the tomb of the gods, and whether that was Byrgenwerth or The Labyrinth, the question remains: Who or what was this medium?
"The short story is that a group of scholars in Byrgenwerth discovered blood of incredible power in the tombs underneath, old blood." - Redgrave
The most popular theory is that "medium" refers to blood. Many lore enthusiasts adhere to this theory. They could well be right for blood is referred to as a medium.
Human or not, the oozing blood is a medium of the highest grade, and the essence of the formless Great One.
Both Oedon, and Oedon's inadvertent worshippers, surreptitiously seek the precious blood. " - Formless Oedon and Oedon Writhe
The inhuman blood referred to is quicksilver, the essence of Oedon, and both runes improve your Quicksilver management in some way.
The meaning of medium in this context is that of an intervening substance, as air, through which a force acts or an effect is produced.
But medium also has another meaning, that of conduit. In this sense, medium may also refer to a person like a seer, a prophet or herald.
"Well, I'm a simple hunter, quite unfamiliar with the ins and outs of the institution."
"But I have heard that the holy medium of blood healing is venerated in the main cathedral." - Alfred
"The holy medium of blood healing is venerated in the main cathedral."
Assuming that Alfred's referring to The Grand Cathedral, the object of veneration may be found at The Grand Cathedral altar.
This altar holds three main points of interest: Laurence's Skull , an empty throne , and a headless lady . The lady is pouring something.
Ingame, the liquid being poured is unspecified. The same lady can, however, be seen pouring Quicksilver in the Bloodborne Cinematic Trailer .
Quicksilver (Hg - Mercury) is a deadly poison that inflicts madness. In the cinematic, the lady drips this liquid into Laurence's cracked skull .
Headless characters are depicted in other places as well. The Labyrinth is teeming with statues of a veiled woman who's often missing a head .
The Labyrinth also contains the Bloodletting Beasts, the sexes of which are undefined, and which sometimes have a head and sometimes don't .
Then there are the Bound Widows that haunt Castle Cainhurst, which come in two variations: with their throats slit or with their heads lopped off .
Above ground, the headless statue always has the same shape. It always has a single wing protruding from the back , strange hair , and no head.
Considering these strange characteristics, the omnipresence of headlessness and the connection to Quicksilver, the statue may very well depict Oedon.
If it's not Oedon, it may also be an important servant of Oedon, a human who experienced some unique mutations and is connected to The Labyrinth.
Headlessness is an important characteristic of Coyolxauhqui, an Aztec Moon goddess, and the Hindu Chhinnamasta (an epithet of Kali).
Of Chhinnamasta it is said that she removed her own head, as a kind of taunt. She and her two servants then feasted upon the spouting blood .
Coyolxauhqui is an enemy of the Aztec Sun god. She leads the star demons against him, but she ends up beheaded, with her head becoming the Moon.
There is, of course, the matter of gender: Can Oedon, named after Odin, appear as a woman? According to me, yes, quite possibly so.
Bloodborne's Great Ones are quite ambiguous in terms of sex and gender, and Lovecraft's Nyarlathotep (The Moon Presence) is a proficient shapeshifter.
The Moon Presence fits very well with the character of Coyolxauhqui, the evil leader of "star demons" who moved to kill her mother and her brother (the Sun).
"Oedon" is the god of quicksilver. In renaissance alchemy, the element of quicksilver was considered to be "Azoth", "the universal solvent", or "alkahest".
Described also as a "fiery androgyne", mercury was seen as a substance with unlimited facets, with unlimited potential, and as the path to everlasting life.
Mercury was believed to be able to cure any affliction, and at the start of the game, The Hunter may have set out to seek something similar: "Paleblood".
"Paleblood" is another name for The Moon Presence (as explained by Miyazaki) while The Moon Presence is almost certainly analogous to Nyarlathotep.
In fact, hacker Sanadsk recently uncovered an elite version of The Moon Presence that resembles Nyarlathotep even more than the MP's final form.
Nyarlathotep is a being of infinite forms, which is consistent with Azoth, and he's the high chief of the Great Old Ones, which is consistent with Oedon.
Azoth's symbol is the caduceus, the Baphomet double serpent , that is also a symbol of Mercury , who was equated by the Romans with Odin.
"Odin" takes after Oedon, and through Odin's link to Mercury, Odin is linked to quicksilver. Odin is also the god of intoxication and madness in battle.
Baphomet is known as "the hermaphroditic goat", the Caryll Rune "Corruption " is a caduceus, and the caduceus appears elsewhere as well .
Fact is that there exists a caduceus called Kundalini . It's a sexual chakra, located at the base of the spine , in strange parallel to Baphomet .
Kundalini is related to Chhinnamasta, the self-decapitated goddess who's a manifestation of terror, and the exemplar of spiritual corruption: "Kegare".
The abode of Chhinnamasta is the cremation ground (shmashāna) and there's evidence to suggest that Hemwick Charnel Lane is a cremation ground.
"Charnel" refers to a place where dead are stored without being buried. Such rituals are typical of Hindus, who prefer to send off the dead using pyres.
One of the main produces of Hemwick is "Bone Marrow Ash ", signifying that bodies are burned to ash there, possibly in these furnaces .
Hemwick also houses these exploding barrels , which most likely contain fuel for burnings, and it's home to those charred black "Mad Ones ".
The character of Chhinnamasta may be connected to this woman . She and her two servants are kneeling at the sides of a shrouded, dead old man.
Like Chhinnamasta, the Great Lady has two servants. In the Church of the Good Chalice, they have strange, masklike faces and display odd veins .
Their dresses are strangely curved , more like running lava than cloth . Their faces resemble the ashen dead of Pompeii .
Odd curves also mark the old man's death shroud . This shroud may be tied to "dark lava ", a sort of tombstone sprouting gunk .
The Great Lady reappears in the Witch's Abode along with her two servants. The fact that they appear there suggests that they are witches.
The Witch's Abode also contains mysterious wooden skulls , hidden inside barrels. These weird things may have been used as props in ritual beheadings.
In Hemwick, the dead old man, assuming it's the same character, appears different, lying on a shroud. A very similar shroud carries Laurence, The First Vicar .
Laurence bleeds lava, and above him appears the figure of the mercury pouring woman . He represents another link between a female power figure and lava.
In the Souls universe, witches are commonly associated with searing fire and lava, The Witch of Izalith , her children and her realm of Izalith .
So seeing these women, appear in connection to signs of lava, could be From Software's way of indicating that these women are actually like the chaos witches.
Vicar Amelia, who is found praying in front of Laurence's Skull, was originally a boss set to appear in the Witch's Abode . She could thus belong to the same cult.
Yharnam contains a lot of art depicting a large woman being worshipped , , , , , . The scene is quite similar to how the three ladies are staged.
This art may also display the Pthumerian Queen, and there is a great deal of vagueness in how this relates to the three women, Oedon, and The Child of Blood.
Beside Oedon and The Queen, the great one Kos is another character of great importance. This female Great One is worshipped by The School of Mensis.
Beside the headless lady, Laurence's Skull is the centrepiece of the Grand Cathedral and may, therefore, be Alfred's "holy medium of blood healing".
But I believe Laurence's role is rather that of a Catholic saint, an exalted follower of the faith. Such men are said to bear an uncanny likeness to God.
The headless lady is seen pouring blood/mercury into Laurence's Skull, implying Laurence's wasn't the first "Blood Saint", he may even have been a victim.
It's typical for a Catholic saint to have a church dedicated to him/her, the church often contains a relic, generally a body part, in this case, a skull .
The central piece, the empty throne could itself be an object of worship. More on it under From Berserk to Bloodborne - Smough The Executioner.
In short, the empty throne could symbolize the Judean concept of Merkabah, The Throne of God, also named The Chariot. Which is significant for two reasons.
First, Merkabah symbolizes man's ascension. Various esoteric thinkers have speculated that Merkabah is a pathway to a higher spiritual plane.
Second, Merkabah can personify God in his role as judge and punisher. If true, Merkabah would be the primary godhead of The Executioners.
The empty throne could also be a "Souls authentic" symbol, as the series attributed great symbolic significance to "the empty throne" in both DS2 and DS3.
"The last king of this land, King Vendrick, as he was called…"
He was less of a king than you might imagine.
He found the strength to rule his people, and when the Undead were born, cursed…
He found more strength, to face them.
But in the end, he never took the true throne." - Nashandra, DS2
"Brave Undead, seek the throne.
Follow the symbol of the monarch, and do what must be done." - Nashandra, DS2
"Do you intend to link the fire? Then you must first take the throne.
Prove your worth. Find the ancient crowns. Seek adversity, and they will be yours. And your wishes, granted." - King Vendrick, DS2
Coveter of the throne... I am Vendrick, ruler of Drangleic.
Seeker of fire... deliverer of crowns...
Seek adversity. As befits you, seeker of fire, coveter of the throne." - King Vendrick, DS2
The Lords have left their thrones, and must be deliver'd to them.
To this end, I am at thy side." - Firekeeper, DS3
"Noble Lords of Cinder.
The fire fades...
...and the lords go without thrones.
Surrender your fires...
...to the true heir." - Firekeeper, DS3
What this altogether means is left unspecified, but the essence of Merkabah may not be far off, as the king is also a symbol of the rule of law.
To reiterate, Alfred's "holy medium of blood healing" could refer to the headless lady, it could refer to the empty throne, it could refer to Laurence.
The throne has no immediate connection to blood, unless its relation to "ascension" is related to the philosophy of blood healing.
Laurence has a clear connection to blood, he may even have been a Blood Saint, yet he may rather be a subsidiary of blood healing, not its holy principle.
That leaves the headless lady, who may be Oedon, who likely is the Great Lady that appears all over Yharnam and who may be related to the Pthumerian Queen.
I posit that the headless lady is the most likely candidate for being "the holy medium of blood healing". This corroborates the idea that the medium is a person.
Other words for holy medium are "prophet", "seer", "herald", "messenger". Nyarlathotep - The Moon Presence - is the messenger of the Outer Gods.
Oedon is connected to mercury, "Mercury" is the Roman messenger of the gods and was, by the Romans, considered identical to the Germanic god Odin.
It makes a lot of sense for the Grand Cathedral to be devoted to Oedon, who just might be depicted in this church as a winged woman that pours mercury.
Thus, it's quite possible that "the holy medium of blood healing" is this woman, and if it's Oedon then the character can represent both "blood" and "person".
This holy medium was found deep inside the tomb of the gods. This could be what is pictured in the "Forest Scene ".
Humans meet a great deer inside the Forbidden Woods, recognizable by the giant tombstones on the left. There are trees and various other animals as well.
The most at hand explanation is that the deer represents some kind of Cleric Beast . This being may have played the part of forest god .
The primary concepts attributed to forest gods are fertility and abundance. They also had a dark side, as they represented predatory animals and unseen dangers.
The Celtic "Cernunnos" and the Greek "Pan" are two forest gods with horns. Pan is a notoriously capricious god, while Cernunnos is more of a mystery.
Fertility often implies sex. Pan is extremely lewd and Cernunnos' horns are taken to represent "aggressive power, genetic vigor, and fecundity."
Scholars like Ronald Hutton have argued that the strong connections between sex and pagan "horned gods", lead Christians to identify these deities with Satan.
Satan, whose appearance is not described in The Bible, may therefore have derived his modern representation from Pan and other horned gods.
Considering that Pan is the original Satan, and that is Pan is the son of Hermes (= Mercury --> Oedon) meeting him must have been of great importance.
In The Labyrinth, great treasure coffins depict a king with a horned crown , further corroborating the existence of a horned character.
In East Asian cultures, an antlered figure may be indicative of a qilin, an auspicious guardian animal with high intelligence .
Qilins are often depicted with fire all over their bodies. They are said to appear with the imminent arrival or passing of a sage or illustrious ruler.
Laurence, The First Vicar is an antlered, chimerical creature with fire all over his body . If Laurence is a qilin, he could be the augur of a prophet or a king.
Laurence is a sage himself, so his transformation could be an ironic mockery of his own passing, but it could also be related to the passing of The Old Man.
The Qilin is said to be clear-sighted, it is able to flawlessly recognize evildoers. Should they threaten the innocent, it will employ its fearsome flames.
Such ideas and powers befit a high cleric, to judge men flawlessly, in accordance with God, and to punish them by means of fire.
There's a preexistent tale about a qilin that may be quite illuminating. Its tale is told by Studio Ghibli in the anime "Princess Mononoke".
The film opens with a hero battling a ferocious demon, visually this demon is much akin to the DS3 enemy "Pus of Man ".
The demon is revealed to be a giant boar. Giant boars and giant wolves play a large role in Princess Mononoke, as they do Bloodborne.
When mortally wounded these sacred animals can become corrupted , the qilin of the story will face that fate as well.
It is named Shishigami or Great Forest Spirit, he's the living soul of the forest and shifts between two forms: that of qilin and that of "Nightwalker".
The Nightwalker is a giant astral form , made out of stars and the blue of the sky. "Great One" is a concept very close to this starry giant.
At dawn, it transforms into a qilin , a benevolent, man-faced deer with birdlike hooves. Incidentally, his blood curses all who touch it.
His forest is home to many spiritual creatures. Among them are the childlike kodamas , comical beings not unlike the Messengers .
But the forest is threatened by the expansion of a nearby human settlement, Irontown. A bloody conflict rages between humans and the beasts of the forest.
Eboshi, the female leader of Irontown, is scheming to behead the forest god. With the head, she hopes to gain self-rule for Irontown and end the conflict.
She succeeds and decapitates Shishigami. As a result, Shishigami turns into a massive death god and begins sucking the life out of everything.
Mononoke, and the protagonist, eventually manage to return the head to Shishigami, but Irontown is left destroyed and the forest too is severely compromised.
Nyarlathotep And The Moon Presence
A widely held view is that The Moon Presence resembles Lovecraft's Nyarlathotep, the crawling chaos.
"I saw the world battling against blackness; against the waves of destruction from ultimate space; whirling, churning, struggling around the dimming, cooling sun." - from Nyarlathotep, by H.P. Lovecraft
"Screamingly sentient, dumbly delirious, only the gods that were can tell. A sickened, sensitive shadow writhing in hands that are not hands, and whirled blindly past ghastly midnights of rotting creation, corpses of dead worlds with sores that were cities, charnel winds that brush the pallid stars and make them flicker low. Beyond the worlds vague ghosts of monstrous things; half-seen columns of unsanctifled temples that rest on nameless rocks beneath space and reach up to dizzy vacua above the spheres of light and darkness. And through this revolting graveyard of the universe the muffled, maddening beating of drums, and thin, monotonous whine of blasphemous flutes from inconceivable, unlighted chambers beyond Time; the detestable pounding and piping whereunto dance slowly, awkwardly, and absurdly the gigantic, tenebrous ultimate gods the blind, voiceless, mindless gargoyles whose soul is Nyarlathotep." - from Nyarlathotep, by H.P. Lovecraft
"The most realistic and horrible nightmare I have experienced since the age of ten" - cited as inspiration for Nyarlathotep - source H.P. Lovecraft.
Nyarlathotep is said to have a thousand forms through which he may manifest. He's the only "Outer God" described as a polymorph.
He has countless names: "The Crawling Mist", "The White Man", "The Faceless God", "The Bloated Woman", "The Skinless One", "The Pharaoh", ...
As Outer God, he outranks Great Old Ones like Cthulhu. He's very active on Planet Earth and is the only Lovecraftian god that interacts with The Dreamlands.
If The Moon Presence is Nyarlathotep, the aspect of polymorphy would fit the theory that The Moon Presence is Formless Oedon.
An entity with an endless amount of forms is something without a definitive form and can consequently be called "formless".
Another aspect linking the two together is that the ancient Greeks equated formlessness with the primordial chaos that preceded creation.
In this sense "formlessness" can be equated with darkness, death, evil and the primordial abominations of Lovecraft.
When Nyarlathotep interacts with humans he typically assumes the form of a tall, thin man. Gehrman is a tall, thin man.
While Gehrman is probably a separate character, he is the proxy by which The Moon Presence interacts with the Hunter.
Beneath is a rendering of human Nyarlathotep made by Bracey100. He has dropped his guise to transform his head into a deadly tentacle.
Symbols And The Moon Presence
The Moon Presence is strongly tied to a number of Caryll runes. These include Communion, Moon, Hunter and Formless Oedon.
Its face with one large opening and 3 small ones, matches up very well with the symbol of Communion .
The Communion rune is also shaped like a drop of water, the skull of The Moon Presence is likewise "droplet shaped" .
Communion means "to get closer to God" and the Communion rune is found all over the Research Hall .
This symbol can also be found on Mergo's Wet Nurse. It's present on the large amulet she wears .
What exactly the connection is between The Moon Presence and Mergo's Wet Nurse is still being investigated.
The symbols also fit certain Tarot cards. Their importance is discussed under Tarot Cards and Bloodborne.
The High Priestess is the Tarot card linked to Communion. The High Priestess is the female counterpart of The Hierophant.
The Hierophant is a symbol of subtle and unseen power. He most likely represents Formless Oedon.
Explaining "Formlessness" With Caryll Runes And Tarot Cards (contains playful speculation)
It's actually possible to couple the Caryll Rune Communion to the Caryll Rune Formless Oedon .
To do this, Formless Oedon must be flipped upside down . It's then possible to get the 3 dots of Communion to overlap the 3 dots of Formless Oedon.
It creates a picture not unlike how The Moon Presence first manifests .
The purpose of this idea is to explain the formless nature of Oedon. Oedon has no form, but The Moon Presence does have form.
It's been suggested that formless merely refers to being invisible, but that's a fairly superficial interpretation of "formless".
The formless nature of Oedon is the reason he's considered the highest Great One. This suggests something more than invisibility.
Something that's formless may transform into a toxic mist, a great monster or be invulnerable altogether.
Tarot symbology is omnipresent in Bloodborne and they're often connected to Caryll Runes, see Tarot Cards and Bloodborne.
If Tarot cards are like runes, then it's possible that the rules of Tarot can be applied to Caryll Runes as well.
In Tarot every card has an Upright and Reversed state. The Reversed state means flipping the card upside down.
When Reversed, the card's meaning's opposed to the original meaning.
Positive qualities become negative qualities, the original projections are overruled and the new projections are entirely different.
This may entail that Oedon's nature can be reversed. Though normally formless, when he does have form, he becomes The Moon Presence.
This also fits with the nature of Communion. The opposite of a formless, unseen god is one that's close enough to commune with.
This could make the whole process of trying to "commune" with The Moon Presence, a ritual designed to constrain it to a single form.
Once bound to single form, it may be possible to kill The Moon Presence. This requires inhuman powers in the form of 3 Umbilical Cords.
Without these Umbilical Cords, The Moon Presence will deploy abilities against which The Hunter has no defense.
In the cinematic, these abilities are demonstrated in the form of an eerie embrace .
The reason The Hunter doesn't fight back, may not be a lack of physical strength. He/she simply cannot shake off the embrace of something that's "formless".
The Moon Presence And "Nahr Alma"
The rune Moon can be seen as two vertically opposed versions of the Nahr Alma symbol (see above)
In Dark Souls 2, Nahr Alma is the god of blood and patron of the Brotherhood of Blood covenant.
The Brotherhood of Blood forms the primary PvP covenant of and focusses on indiscriminate invading. It has an evil reputation.
The Brotherhood is the successor of DS1's Darkwraith covenant led by Darkstalker Kaathe , which too has an evil reputation.
In turn, the Brotherhood is led by a faceless character by the name of Titchy Gren , who becomes feverish talking about blood:
"Do you have a lust for blood? Do you give yourself to Nahr Alma? Then you will need blood, lots of it.
You want more than just a little blood. You want to be drenched in blood, mired in its foul stench. Am I right? Am I?
Oh, just say that I'm right! Nah hah hah…" - Titchy Gren
The Undead Purgatory includes statues of Nahr Alma , who's portrayed with a scythe , scales and a particularly black skin .
Tall and swarthy is a description of Nyarlathotep , a shape-shifting god who's believed to be the inspiration behind The Moon Presence.
Black skin is a symbol of the goddess Kali , which is believed to signify that the qualities of good, bad, color and light don't apply to her.
Kali is a bloodthirsty goddess, and her being described as a being that is above attributes, sounds a lot like a description of Formless Oedon.
From the Mahanirvana Tantra (wikipedia.org): "At the dissolution of things, it is Kāla [Time] Who will devour all, and by reason of this He is called Mahākāla [Lord Shiva],
and since Thou devourest Mahākāla Himself, it is Thou who art the Supreme Primordial Kālika. Because Thou devourest Kāla, Thou art Kāli, the original form of all things,
and because Thou art the Origin of and devourest all things Thou art called the Adya [the Primordial One]. Re-assuming after Dissolution Thine own form, dark and formless,
Thou alone remainest as One ineffable and inconceivable. Though having a form, yet art Thou formless; though Thyself without beginning, multiform by the power of Maya,
Thou art the Beginning of all, Creatrix, Protectress, and Destructress that Thou art."
Oedon already has a plausible connection to Kali, in the form of Chhinnamasta , the headless Kali, who may have inspired the headless Oedon .
The statue in question is thought to be Oedon because, in the Cinematic Trailer, she's seen pouring quicksilver , the essence of Formless Oedon.
This headless figure plays an important part in Pthumerian culture as well , and it possesses two wings, like those of The Moon Presence .
Chhinnamasta and Kali reside spiritually in cremation grounds, while The Moon Presence manifests in a graveyard aligned with crucifixes .
Those crucifixes are used in Yharnam to ritually incinerate Beast Patients , whose affliction is sometimes referred to as "Ashen Blood".
Another symbol of Kali is the trishula (trident) , which is also a symbol of Lord Shiva , with whom she's married in the facet of "Parvati".
Corresponding tridents appear on The Moon Presence in the form of tails , and also appear in the runes "Hunter " and "Moon ".
These strange references point to a sexually ambiguous Oedon, which fits into my theory that Oedon was in part derived from Griffith .
The World Egg
Reproduction is an important theme in Bloodborne, and Amygdala's head may well fit into that theme. Moreover, it could connect her to The World Egg .
The World Egg is a cosmological concept that recurs in various mythologies, it's known in Vedic tradition as Hiranyagarbha and as the Orphic Egg in Orphism.
Hiranyagarbha literally translates to "Golden Egg" or "Golden Womb". The egg is referred to as The Creator, Brahman, Brahmā, and The Soul of The Universe.
In the beginning when there was nothing, appeared Swayambhu, The Self-Manifested Being, who created the primordial waters and the seed of the universe therein.
Then the egg became a womb, which was then entered by Swayambhu. The germ hung in the darkness for one year, then brought forth all realms of the universe.
"Egg" is a recurring motif in Bloodborne art, appearing in a large multitude of places as an oval that goes through numerous phases of cracking .
These eggs remind of the strange tombstones found in the Forbidden Woods and Yharnam . These tombstones look like fossilized stinkhorns.
These structures also resemble the foul growths that protrude from the DS1 Egg Carrier , latticed sacks that are brimming with Vile Maggots .
Egg structures have been with the series since the beginning , most likely inspired by Berserk's Behelits . They are required for demon ascension .
In dire need for power, humans use Behelits to become demons. The choice of words is quite specific , insinuating a lot about the people on the Archstones.
The Orphic Egg is the cosmic egg that hatched the hermaphroditic god Phanes . Phanes is the creator of the universe and conceiver of the other gods.
Phanes is usually enwrapped by a serpent. He also has the hooves of the hermaphroditic goat, like Baphomet or the Wiccan "Horned God".
His name means "to bring light" or "to shine", and is therefore interchangeable with "Lucifer". Phanes is also connected to Mithra, Persian god of contracts.
This mythology was likely reused in Berserk, in which The Egg Of The Perfect World , gives birth to the outspokenly androgynous Griffith .
In Berserk, Griffith essentially plays the role of Lucifer/Satan, the haughty angel that became the scourge of mankind and a rival to the Christian God.
Griffith's demon form is based on an hermaphroditic Satan . He's also likely based on "Shiva", the androgynous Hindu god of destruction.
Capable of exerting unnatural influence over humans , Griffith's like the tempter Satan, but potentially also like Phanes, who's often equated with Eros.
That role in turn shares attributes with The Moon Presence, who's popularly theorized to be in a state of rebirth , in the form of Mergo .
They're both related to "a dream ", they're also both related to the birth or rebirth of a higher being , Mergo in Bloodborne and Griffith in Berserk.
Griffith's a dark androgynous entity, as is The Moon Presence. Both are related to the Moon , in the case of Griffith, in the form of an eclipse , or "Dark Sun".
The Moon Presence is also related to an eclipse, but rather to a lunar eclipse or "Blood Moon". It may be linked to Griffith's double: Dark Sun Gwyndolin .
The Moon Presence was inspired by Nyarlathotep, The Crawling Chaos. Griffith is at one point stripped of his muscles , reducing him to a crawling state.
In this torturous state, the Scarlet Behelit answers Griffith's prayer and summons The Dark Angels , who transform him into a member of the God Hand .
Just before the eclipse, Griffith hears a child's crying, like an hallucination or an echo of himself , which is very much like to the ambient crying of Mergo .
Bloodborne is fundamentally about a Great One conception, which fits the narrative of Demon's Souls, which centers around a cosmic horror: "The Old One ".
Moments before the end of Demon's Souls, when The Old One seeks a new Demon, the call of The Old One is recognized as the crying of a child, by Saint Urbain.
The Old One in many ways mirrors Berserk's Idea of Evil, such as offering demon power , distorting reality , and using strange eggs .
Strange eggs also appear in Bloodborne , and probably trace back to Behelits , the demon creating eggs that inspired the Eye Orbs of Dark Souls .
If Bloodborne's eggs follow the logic of Berserk, then these eggs mirror the Behelits, and a new demon is being born, the newborn Mergo , or perhaps you .
"Great One" is a term used in Berserk to refer to The God Hand , and in DS2, to refer to The Old Ones . Old Ones are reincarnations of the DS1 pentad .
This pentad has always been entwined with God Hand (sexual), five godlike beings which the protagonist has to kill for the story to conclude .
The birth of a new member of God Hand requires a feast , in which reality is distorted , and demons eat those with "The Mark of Sacrifice "
Many other semblances with Berserk exist, like "A Dream " in the form of an eclipse obscuring The Sun, all to feed souls to the newborn god .
Eclipse symbolism also characterizes Dark Souls , which revolves around an undying, and branded protagonist becoming a lord of fire, or of darkness.
The brand of the Undead, The Darksign, was likely inspired by The Mark of Sacrifice, which may be more recognizable, in the shape of the DS Moonlight Arrow .
Those Moonlight Arrows would be reused in DS3 by Aldrich , a corrupted form of Gwyndolin, and in a manner reflecting Void's branding technique .
The Dark Sun Gwyndolin is a bigendered, Griffith inspired character which appeared in DS1 . His name means "white and fair" while "Dark Sun" means "eclipse".
Gwyndolin is linked to Lothric, who has the same voice actor, is also linked to an eclipse and whose crippled state looks a lot like Griffith being carried .
Lothric's birth is a controversial one, likely involving the essence of dragons , bringing to mind Priscilla and also her snake legged brother, Gwyndolin .
Dragon children are tied to concealment and are sometimes capable of total invisibility: like Priscilla and Ocelotte , which makes them similar to Mergo .
Anor Londo actually has numerous depictions of a wet nurse , and Gwyndolin is tied to themes relevant to Bloodborne: like "moon " and "hunting ".
Lothric also has a wet nurse: High Priestess Emma , a character related to the Blades of the Darkmoon and to the Shrine Handmaid , who may be Velka .
Velka, the rogue goddess, is the goddess of sin, "purging " and Ariamis' Crow Demons , who carry with them covenant items of The Blades of the Darkmoon.
Goddess of crows, she's linked to the invisible crow babies , and her augur, The Giant Crow, picks up undead, should they assume a fetal position .
Likewise, The Wet Nurse is an invisible crow like being , who's linked to "amalgam plumes ", which mirror The Purging Monument , linked to purging.
The Wet Nurse may form an entity with Pontiff Sulyvahn , guardian of Lothric, The Darklurker , and the Shrine Handmaid, all personas capable of cloning .
There appears to be a line of reincarnating, Griffith inspired characters, linked to dragons, obscurity, and wet nurses. Mergo may be one of them.
All these characters are pale albinos. Another name for The Moon Presence is "Paleblood" (Miyazaki), so there could be a real connection there.
That's another interpretation.“Paleblood” is another name for the monster that comes from the moon under certain conditions. - Hidetaka Miyazaki
Dark Sun Gwyndolin is thematically linked to the hunting goddesses of the Moon: Artemis and Diana , and uses the word "hunting ".
Gwyndolin may have used "Moonlight ", "Mark of Sacrifice arrows", to brand and sacrifice humans , in a Berserk like ritual .
The Messengers embracing The Moon Presence , its manner of conception, from a dream it all seems to hail from Berserk .
In Berserk, Griffith is linked to an image called The Symbol of God , two coiling snakes and a pair of wings which he represents .
This symbol is the caduceus , the symbol of the messenger god "Mercury", whose name means "quicksilver", an element tied to Oedon .
The Berserk caduceus also features an egg at its base, making it very symbolic of concepts like The Cosmic Egg and deities like Phanes .
In Souls titles, the caduceus is recurring as both a word and a symbol and is likely connected to The Primordial Serpents.
The Moonlight Arrows used by Aldrich contain this pattern , and this coiling pattern, along with moon symbols, appeared on The Old One .
The Old One is - I believe - analogous to The Idea of Evil from Berserk , who transforms Griffith , to live in the manner of a demon king .
The Messengers honoring Griffith are part of The Abyss , Messengers are tied to fog , or cosmos , both linked to The Old One .
The Moon Presence forms from fog , and one cut version of it had an arena which incorporated The Old One's scenery .
The being most mirrors Griffith when it descends from heaven and ensnares The Hunter without a fight , a trick typical of Griffith .
"Paleblood" could mean: essence of the pale ones merged with Nyarlathotep "Messenger of The Outer Gods ".
The Moon Presence & Lord Griffith
Griffith is the cutthroat main antagonist of The Berserk Manga. His name is derived from Ralph T. H. Griffith, a famous scholar of Hindu mythology.
As the story develops he changes from a mercenary captain , to a debased cripple , while ultimately becoming a monstrous Antichrist .
Griffith became a high demon during a supernatural eclipse . Using the magic of a Behelit he contacted The Idea of Evil and joined God Hand.
Dark Sun Gwyndolin is another pale, androgynous male, associated with the eclipse, for his name refers to the obscured Sun, i.o.w an eclipse.
His Blades of the Darkmoon invoke the obscured Moon (the new moon), and/or make reference to the hypothetical second moon of Earth, Lilith.
Lilith is the supposed first wife of Adam , and a demoness in most legends. The devs may have enmeshed her with Gwyndolin / Griffith .
Berserk's eclipse attracts hordes of lesser demons , as well as Great Ones , and means branding victims with The Mark of Sacrifice .
The hero of Berserk is one such victim, and as a result, is connected to the world of the dead , the wraiths of which are driving him mad .
The links to the DS protagonist are strong , who branded with the eclipse like Darksign must face insanity and endless Undead .
Darksigns in Dark Souls may entail similar sacrifices, the branding of unwilling victims with a curse, to create a new monster, or fuel an Age of Fire.
An eclipse actually occurs in DS3 , and is connected to Prince Lothric, a crippled androgyn who mirrors Griffith in a number of ways .
Griffith's original dream was to rule a country of his own , yet he became castrated and crippled, that is until he became a lord of demons.
In fact, the meaning of the name "Griffith" is "lord" or "prince", and the last words uttered by Emma, implore Lothric to "be a lord" - "a Gruffudd".
In Arthurian legend exists a character who's crippled and impotent, and whose kingdom's becoming a lifeless wasteland, called "The Fisher King".
That sounds a lot like Lothric, and "Fisher King" carries links to tridents, used for fishing, and tridents link to Shiva, Kali, and The Moon Presence.
Griffith and Lothric are linked to an eclipse, "induced by the Moon", while Gwyndolin, born with the power of the Moon, was reared as a daughter.
"The Crawling Chaos" is a byname of Nyarlathotep, who inspired The Moon Presence, while the above youths all have some deformity in the legs.
In Berserk, a demon birth requires Behelits , and Behelits are part of Souls as well, appearing as strange eggs , or eyed stones .
Enigmatic eggs appear in Yharnam as well , which in my opinion are references to procreation and demonic rebirth, and to The Old One.
Behelit like objects are seen on every DeS Archstone , and were probably used by these people to summon The Old One and "ascend ".
The Doll has behelit eyes , while the curious forelegs of Rom's Children are a reference to The Egg Shaped Apostle , a living behelit.
This creature is a poisonous wall-crawler, and Bloodborne's spider men were named "Nightmare Apostles" for resembling him so .
More evidence that Bloodborne involves a Berserk style ascension exists in the ties between Messengers , Griffith and Mergo .
The beings coming out of the walls are one with Berserk's Abyss , and their visit to Griffith is much like The Messengers claiming The Hunter.
Berserk ascension distorts reality , merging it with another dimension , which could explain the paranormal scenes of Yharnam .
Berserk's demonic rebirth may explain the importance of the Moon , of eyes , of procreation and the appearance of Beasts .
Once reborn, Griffith is supernaturally enthralling, which may help to explain why The Moon Presence can envelop The Hunter so easily .
Griffith's conception, both as a human and as a demon, was masterminded by The Idea of Evil , whose Souls equivalent is The Old One.
A Lovecraftian abomination in its own right, The Old One holds connections to the cosmos , and to demon spawning mist .
The Moon Presence spawns from mist , and does so in a manner mirroring Griffith's rebirth , which is a process connected to "a dream".