Ludwig's Holy Blade | Bloodborne Wiki

this isn't a rant, but an observation. it seems a lot of people playing this after elden ring used a bleed build in er, then use this and cleaver in this game. cool weapon, never tried it

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Me ignoring the ensalted screams of the damned(I am too enraptured by my cool sword to care about their opinion)

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Anyone know of a Pthumeru false depth 1 chalice with a Lost Variant?
Or know of any other easy way to get a lost version?

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Does leveling the arcane increases its damage? Otherwise, what does it mean for a weapon to scale with arcane?

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can I use this on a strength build?

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if you're sperging out over what pretend items random strangers equip in any video game, please go get some sun or a job or something

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LHB big time noob weapon.

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This monster is the most powerful weapon in the game on a quality build. Given the scaling and considering the massive damage it can deal with top level gems it’s not really a discussion in terms of raw damage. The thrust R2 is absolutely devastating. I tend to agree with some others that it isn’t as interesting a weapon in terms of moveset but it destroys

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Ye who dare to enter, be warned that the salt mines are as vast and deep as the stupidity that created them. Those who enter are twisted and warped into grotesque caricatures of humans, capable of only screaming insults at all who would dare to wield this cursed blade. Heed this warning and flee for no good can come of venturing deeper.

P.S. The gift shop is on the third floor. Our commemorative shirts and mugs make great gifts for family and friends

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Conceptually it's pretty boring. Gameplay wise, it's one of the best weapons.

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I hate this trash awful weapon

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Average Virgin Player: There are better weapons that do better damage!!

Average Gigachad Player: I use it because it looks cool

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For anyone searching for Ludwig's Lost Holy Blade, the location of it in the gc2nhw6u chalice is in the Layer 1 pre-bonus area

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Ludwig Holy Blade is boring imo. It's bland, stupid and weak. It's the worst weapon in the game.

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Ludwigs blade is not one i use much. I totally forgot it existed Ludwig holy blade kinda sucks

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reliable ass weapon

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Chad weapon disliked by virgins. And i say it being a stake driver user.

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Whirligig Saw is alot better than Ludwig holy blade.

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Bloodborne fans are so sensitive when people wanna play the game the way they wanna play XD

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I think this is the safest weapon to use in the game. The best is always a debate and user based, but LHB is always reliable. Beginner friendly, high damage, good range, decent speed, good moveset, and high stagger.

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Guys, did you know that this weapon:
Requires 16 Blood Stone Shards, 16 Twin Blood Shards, 16 Chunks and 1 Blood Rock
and 4240 Blood Echoes to fully upgrade????

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All the attacks in transformed mode except the r2 are blunt damage! If you truly wanna become op use blunt gems on it.

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I love the weapon. just wish the move set wasn’t so bland.

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So what did Ludwig use? This sword or the holy moonlight sword?

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So i see people saying this weapon is the best in the game which i do understand but i personally dont believe that because the church pick has- beast hunter modifier (affects more enemies than serrated) and its righteous (20% damage to kin). Additionally church pick's transformed mode only does thrusts attacks which all enemies are weak to. Ludwigs blade has low multiplier in both modes while church pick has higher multiplier. I guess at the end tho that it all depends on ur playstyle and preference.

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Rally gems are quite useful for this blade, as it’s useful for the brain dead charged R2 insta kill everything build to regain health lost while charging.

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Can't believe people are seriously getting mad over an op weapon in a (let's be real) game with no pvp

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this weapon sucks so goddamn much. saw cleaver has better damage, is faster, better transform, bonus damage against beasts and stuns most enemies. dont use this crappy weapon

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Part of the "Martyr Logarius is bullshit" starter pack, along with the Hunter's Torch instead of a firearm. Will equip the Cainhurst Set after you show them you can shoot Logarius' sword and beat him for them to further celebrate their reluctance to part from the Dark Souls play style.

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This is probably one of my favorite weapons and I don't even use it; I just love the design.

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completely op, you didn't beat the game if you used this. wait this isn't the torch's page

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Ah, yes. The OP weapon made for carrying braindead casuals through the game. GIT GUD AND USE A REAL WEAPON YOU SCRUBS.

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The most boring weapon in BB

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Carried me through the game. Awesome weapon in every sense.

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Ludwig's holy blade + empty phantasm shell = low cost HMS

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I need poise dammit

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Kinda stupid then the off brand MGS is better in than the actcual MGS

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The Item description of this weapons uncanny and lost version is different than the normal one

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So easy to parry regular users of this one who only spam same buttons. Love it!

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My theory is that Ludwig first used the holy moonlight sword. Then, someone tried to make a replica, like pirating the HMS, but didnt have the stuff to make the holy blade glow

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shame i cant use that on bl4 runs

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Strongest weapon in the game.

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Uncanny LHB located in glyph: "v3nxwjrq," first layer treasure room. False Depth chalice accessible with just basic Pthumeru Root. Also worth noting a scurrying beast drops a tier 5 radial tempering gem, in case you're looking to pick one of those up early.

Elias runs this dungeon, whom you may know as the proprietor of the cum dungeon ;)

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I think lore-wise, Ludwig may have wielded the LHB prior to discovering the HMS. As a hunter, I doubt he started out with the HMS and could've tried to emulate descriptions from various sources, making the Greatsword version from them. Then he might've devised the shortsword and transformation to follow the Workshop standard of a two-part transforming weapon. After that, maybe he found the HMS after years of searching and following the lore of the sword to its hiding place.

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I'm confused, how do you block with this or the Kirkhammer?

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I dont know if I'm crazy but after beating the shadows of yharnam the transformed moveset sound different.

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I love this sword.

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I’m able to kill almost everything in 2 hits or less

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Slap a bolt paper on this and wreck any god with it

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I hope in bloodborne 2 that they have this weapon or weapon that looks like the dragonslayer from berserk

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As much as I love HMS, this thing surpasses it in most ways.

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No, I disagree with the claim that Ludwig used this weapon instead of the Holy Moonlight Greatsword (Hence force being called HMGS)! I believe this sword was modeled after his HMGS so his followers could follow his example but with a makeshift version. As the description states “It is CLAIMED” he used this sword just points out the story of the legend changed via word of mouth and since no one really ever seen the HMGS, it can easily be believed that he used this sword instead.

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This weapon is great! Huge damage, absurdly high scaling on anything that isn't Bloodtinge, and super versatile! My only complaint about this weapon is that 4/5 hunters that I see use it exclusively! That's not necessarily the player's fault for liking it and wanting to use it, that's Fromsoft's fault for making this thing just about overpowered! I say that practicing weapon diversity can only lead to an increase in skill (and not the less viable stat) but the fact that this thing more than likely wasn't immediately toned down at launch is really stupid!

Again, I'm not bashing players for using it, they're free to do whatever it is they feel like. From should have realised that B/B/-/A is going to make this weapon really overpowered!

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Man, so glad I switched to Uncanny from my normal LHB, spent 80 insight on the chunks needed to upgrade it, and used a blood rock to improve my AR by.... 14 damage. Lol

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Cant use at BL1. 0/10.

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just remember: no one has ever used this weapon before, and you're bad for liking the things you like.... I like the sheath design! Kinda DS2ish

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transform + r1 (transformed) combos into another r1
backstep r1 also combos into another r1
also, after a blocking an attack with backstep r1, continue holding r1 and your character will continue to block

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why does it has an A scaling in arcane wtf

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When the going gets tough just get your Ludwig's holy sword and chop of some heads.

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This is the only Weapon.

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The absolute best weapon in the game if you run a 50STR/50SKL build, i've tried many, many other builds and none of them deal so much damage, not even a 50BLT chikage build that spams the L1 to R1 combo. The old description was right on the money, this thing was made to destroy all the abominations lurking around yharnam.

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Roll with this and the Saw Cleaver. You're gonna have a good time.

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The untransformed long sword is very underrated, the R1 spam you can do with it is amazing.

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I like to use LHB and Kirkhammer early for a min-maxed arcane focused character. It's super fun and is a little more creative from the standard "quality physical" builds that normally use it. So, hey, if you're new, add a little spice and make this sucker elemental.

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Such a pedestrian choice of a weapon. Don't get me wrong, it's probably the best in the game! It's scaling and moveset are just about as much as you could ever need in PvE AND PvP, but compared to most of the others in the game in terms of creative moveset and looks, it's just so dull. Leave the straight/great swords for Dark Souls, I want to bathe in the blood of beasts as I tear them appart with my Whirligig Saw!

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I like to experiment with my builds, this will mostly lead to extremely sub-optimal ones but usually quality weapons such as this make them viable. Its moveset is easy to understand although a bit boring but unless you make a dedicated build with proper bloodgems and stats it will not nearly qualify as an OP weapon.
P.S. If you are salty because you lost to this in PvP you likely have not realized how many weapons can reach its level of power if properly nurtured.

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Get 800 physics damage on this thing and you may stand a chance in NG+6

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lol I’ve platinumed this game ten times an never tried this weapon. I’m now creating a new character with it. An I’m wondering what the best states I want to make it a fire wepon. I found this page looking for states. I want to make my character level 125 Because that’s my standard!

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Haven’t used this weapon in years but my experience against it in PvP is quite thrilling, a lot of people repeat the R1s which is easy to avoid but some others throw in the full move set and those L2s terrify me they’re the best

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Like someone in the comments said before me "Don't let the comments influence your choice on this weapon" and they're completely right. There are no bad weapons in bloodborne. You find the one that's suited to your taste. However, calling LHB bad is just ridiculous. The people who say that sound like they hate it with a passion and try to stop others from using it. Most likely because their lives depend on this game 24/7 and they need to win for once in their life. If it does the job, use it. If you like it, stick with it. If you don't like it, grab something else. That's fine too.

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Holy heck some guys are really acting like using this weapon goes against the geneva convention. If it was actually OP then FROM would have nuked it 3 years ago, we all know how they "balance" things

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Honestly I find the hunter's axe to be way too crutchy with its insane spin to win and the Kirkhammer is way too slow to make its somewhat inconsistent damage worth it, so imma use this guy until I find something else that catches my eye. I kinda like the stakedriver, but it is way too unpractical to time it properly on anything that doesn't walk right into you. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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I got no problem with the weapon itself, but the people I usually encounter using it online are on average the least-skilled players in Bloodborne (this is an observation, not an insult). Probably in part because it's a PvE weapon. Good damage output but thoroughly mediocre move set, and the latter is far more important when it comes to online play, especially since top tier gems will make most weapons hit like a truck anyway. My guess is the main demographic for this weapon are people who play the game for the first time, decide to search "best Bloodborne weapon and how to get it", and opt for this because the only way they can judge a weapon's merits is by its attack stats, which are very good on this one.

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Look, you play Bloodborne long enough you realize dodge > rally or tank or anything else really. The formula is speed + reach + damage, with priority on speed so you can dodge, then just taking what you can get on the latter two. There's a reason challenge runners don't usually use heavy weapons unless want to make their life harder. Of the fast weapons that have good hitboxes in this game you have the saw spear/cleaver and this. Other fast weapons are just...less consistent, either due to poor range/hit boxes, or the combo timings have a pause that can mess you up somewhere, or the damage types it offers are less than optimal. Most players who learn the formula (you know...git gud) just gravitate towards this weapon, because of course they do. Simple experience shows that this weapon maximizes this formula, on top of easy access to thrust. I love most of the other trick weapons, they're all satisfying in their own way. Burial Blade and Beasthunter Saif are a couple of my favorites. But at the end of the day when I'm deep in a depth 5 chalice dungeon and don't give a***** about anything but finishing it? This weapon does the most damage. So I use it.

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Some of these comments are absurd. "You're bad at the game if you use this weapon" etc. Why, because it's a good weapon? If you want to deliberately cripple yourself to make the game more challenging, good for you. But if you're going to come on here and judge other people for playing how they want, you just sound like an idiot.

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OP and fun, but overused and a crutch.

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I'm thinking of using this weapon, but only in the normal sword form

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You all need to get gud.

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To all new players: use this crutch all you want, just know that literally every other build will laugh at you the moment you show your clown arse online. It's the Bloodborne equivalent of a dunce hat.

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wow I never realized this was such a controversial weapon, I just love it because it looks epic

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More like ludwig's obligatory giant sword in a fromsoft game

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Four hit sweep combo: From Regular stance, neutral L1 transform to Trick stance, quick R1, then R1, R1, L1 to return to Regular. Firearm. Repeat.

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My friend calls this the Noobwigs Scrubby Blade, and I have to agree. I just did a playthrough with this weapon and man was it easy af lol.

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Just because anyone can use it well, doesn't mean it's OP, broken, and evil. A bad player is a bad player, and whatever weapon you want to whine about won't make them a good player, just a bad one with high AR. Besides, the real cancer meta is gun spamming. If you're new, don't let the comments section influence your choice to use this weapon. The souls community will always hate either UGS or Straight Swords, and this thing is unfortunately both

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If you are new, you should know that this is the best weapon in the game. it's a weapon you can get early game, it has fantastic bloodgem slots, the best damage in the game, and scaling for arcane which is the easiest build to make in the game.

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I enjoyed this weapon, and for anyone who's played a darksouls game then moveset will be familiar and straight forward. One handed it's a straight sword, a balance of speed, damage, crowd control, and range. Very useful and flexible for learning the game, getting attacks without too much dedication and getting out when you're unsure. Two handed it's a great sword with better range and damage, with a marked loss in attack speed. More useful for baiting mobs coming into range, or when you are more knowledgable of a bosses moveset, getting in a big burst of damage when you know it's safe. Pretty flexible, B in Strength and Skill means the most straight forward route is to level them in a balanced manner for high physical AR with better than average visceral attacks. However with an high tier improved scaling gem you can get an S scaling in either, you can go for a pure 50 strength or 50 skill build with a very minuscule loss in damage. An A scaling in Arcane means putting an elemental gem on this will make an amazing arcane weapon, and due to it's early availability, and lack of contenders... may be the best early game weapon for getting an arcane build off the ground, or ending the game with. My ending thought is that the weapon may be a little boring and uncreative, but when something is soo good, who needs niche tricks and gimmicks?

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gc2nhw6u (Layer 1) is wrong, the item found here is the holy moonlight blade

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Greetings traveler! I see that you too are traversing the Bloodborne Wiki I’m the hopes of improving your own gaming experience. As such, I must warn you: seek not the tips and tricks for using Ludwig’s Holy Blade in this comment section. There are no such treasures here. Only salt.

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Ludwig's Boring Blade

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It's probably been said before, but this weapon is a noob-trap; it has seemingly high damage in early game, with a host of big damage attacks that all seem good... Until late game, where enemies have such high health values that having faster attacks is much more preferable to doing like 200 more damage per attack with slow attacks that can only be done a few times. That and the longsword form of the weapon is noticeably weaker than other fast weapons like the Saw Cleaver/Spear.

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Does quality 40/40 str/skill works well?

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This is the weapon that you use if you're bad at bloodborne.

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Definitely your best friend when doing a 50/50 str/skill build. I later realized that there are much more fun things to use than this easy mode simulator

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This weapon has saved my ass more times than I can count.

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A boring, powerful weapon. Perfect for if you want to play dark souls. Seriously though, this weapon is a monster in pve. Seems a little too easy to parry in pvp though. I prefer the saws for r1 spam and the Kirk for heavy single hits, but the holy blade blends them pretty well.

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I really admire the creativity of the devs. I sword that can be combined with it's sheath to form a greatsword. Nice

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Ludwig's Uncanny Holy Blade is the most powerful weapon for a physic build. Improving Strength and Skill to 99, with the best blood gems of +27,2% in physical attack (two radials and one triangular), the damage output is 1064! Charged attack is something rated: more than 2500! Charged attack chain (R2 hold+ R2) is pure violence: more than 4000 damage!

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it was my last straw literaly after making no progress for days. Not my top favourite but it helped me alot back then. Definitly a weapon for beginners struggling with BB.

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I know the description for HMS says that few of his fellows ever laid eyes upon the blade, but aren’t they referring to the transformed version of the sword? Wasn’t LHB developed out of providing adaptability for the Holy Blades?

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