Kos (Mother) is a non-player character in Bloodborne. This page is theoretical lore with musings by fans, and not to be taken as official or canon.

Kos Lore by Rakuyo


Is Kos a Great One?

How did Kos die?

Ancient Fertility Goddesses And Kos

Kos, The Dead Mother

Is Kos a reincarnation of the Daughter of Chaos?

Is Kos the Aztec goddess Chalchiuhtlicue?

Fishing Hamlet as Tlalocan

Kos Lore by Fiddlesticks



Kos (Mother) is a giant, sea-dwelling Great One whose dead body gives birth to the boss, Orphan of Kos.

Her corpse, which according to the Kos Parasite was teeming with alien parasites, washed up on the beach of Fishing Hamlet.


Micolash, Host of the Nightmare:
"Ahh, Kos, or some say Kosm... Do you hear our prayers?"
"As you once did for the vacuous Rom, grant us eyes, grant us eyes. Plant eyes on our brains, to cleanse our beastly idiocy."

Kos Parasite
"When the carcass of Kos washed up on the coast, its insides were teeming with tiny parasites, unlike any found in humans.
This atypical weapon can only be clasped tight and swung, but a Kos Parasite is said to stimulate phantasms inhabiting a lumenwood"

Fishing Hamlet Priest wishes the "wrath of mother Kos" upon the blood-crazed fiends of Byrgenwerth.

A Latin translation of the ambient music of Hypogean Gaol suggests that they are addressing Kos, the "sleeping slug".
This song is called "Hail the Nightmare".

Is Kos a Great One?

A congregation of Snail Women can be found praying in the cove near her corpse , suggesting that she's worshipped by the inhabitants of The Fishing Hamlet.

It is stated that every Great One loses its child, and then yearns for a surrogate (Mergo's Wet Nurse's Third Cord). The Orphan may be this surrogate for Kos.

One theory is that Kos ingested the orphan with the motive of turning him into something else, like how the Moon Presence embraces and alters Hunters  .

If she is a Great One then she seems to be one that is bound to the "bottomless ocean" of the Fishing Hamlet realm , which may be tied to DS3's "The Deep".

One great mystery is that it's possible to see Yharnam in the depths of the Fishing Hamlet waters  , which suggest that Fishing Hamlet lies above Yharnam.

It's not certain "which" Yharnam is actually seen, it could be Nightmare Yharnam, or real Yharnam, or both because Nightmare Yharnam also constitutes the past.

Certain citations allude to the sky being merged with the depths of the cosmos, which could be akin to water , in the style of the philosopher Thales of Miletus.

"Here we stand, feet planted in the earth, but might the cosmos be very near us, only just above our heads?" - Cosmic Eye Watcher Badge

"The sky and the cosmos are one. - The Choir." - Cathedral Ward Lore NoteThis means that Fishing Hamlet could exist within the sky itself, inside a veil of "water".


(note: There exists a theory that worlds in Bloodborne are layered. Such layers are modeled after Norse mythology, in which Midgard (Middle-earth) forms the center between a world of gods above (Asgard) and a hellish world (or worlds) beneath. In Norse mythology, this is made possible by the great ashen tree Yggdrasil which holds up the nine worlds. In Dark Souls there are giant (ashen) Archtrees  which are so tall they seem to hold up the sky. In Bloodborne one can spot nigh identical structures by peering around in the Hunter's Dream .)


Careful examination of Kos' corpse reveals very human arms and hands , as well as a seemingly perfect human face .

Not a lot is known about the Great Ones, or why they appear in their diverse forms   , but it is odd to find one that could pass for a large pale woman.

Her alien features rather remind of The Crawler Slugs of The Nightmare Frontier  , like the skin, the protuberances, the slit , and the fetuses .

Careful examination of Snail Women reveals that they have shiny, fishlike scales , just like Kos , so they almost certainly share some heredity with Kos.

If Kos is a Great One that would explain the attention of Byrgenwerth, and it could have been Kos' blood that first launched Yharnam's "Old Blood" enterprise.


How did Kos die?

A lot of mystery surrounds how and why Kos died. One theory proposes that Fishing Hamlet is a whaling village and that Kos was hunted and killed by the locals.

There are certainly reasons to believe so. For one, many of the locals are armed with very large harpoons  , typically used in the context of whaling .

One of the main products of whaling is whale oil, generally used in lamps. Fishing Hamlet is full of lanterns , oil lights , and explosive barrels .

Hamlet Fishmen drop Oil Urns , which some use as bombs . The priests use the lanterns as catalysts , hinting at the special nature of their contents.

However, the raw product isn't oil, it's pale slugs   . The original concept art clearly shows how the slugs provide the oil that fuels the flame .

It's not clear what these slugs are, which have the color and shape of Souls   , but they're probably "phantasms", described as Great One familiars.

They also resemble Humanities , which is interesting because in DS1 you could use Humanities to kindle Bonfires , designating them as a form of fuel.

This idea was corroborated by From Software replacing Humanities with "Human Effigies " in DS2, and replacing Human Effigies with "Embers " in DS3.

It's possible that all these slugs emerged from the corpse of Kos, and that burning their oil produced all kinds of eldritch problems, like insanity or Nightmare Fog.


The whaling analogy may contain another twist: "spermaceti", a wax that can be harvested from sperm whales and which can be processed into candles .

This is interesting due to the prevalence of candles    and "wax  " in Yharnam. In truth "wax" stretches beyond the confines of Bloodborne.

Demon's Souls contained an element called "Sticky White Stuff ", described as wax, and the waste product of a white slug  that bathed in fluorescent water.

Sticky White Stuff is the ancestor of The Empty Phantasm Shell, which is dripping with white slime  and imbues weapons with Arcane damage

In DS3, "Grand Archive Scholars"  dip their heads in strange wax tubs , a ritual that really has no explanation outside the context of "Arcane wax".

Angels of Londor  sprout white wings which exhibit the patterning of hive wax  . They also much remind of The Orphan's slimy wings   .


Ancient Fertility Goddesses And Kos

Certain details suggest Kos was based on the goddesses Aphrodite and Venus , goddesses of fertility and love typified by their association with clams.

Clams appear numerous times in Yharnam architecture . In Cathedral Ward, clams often have statues of euphoric bearded men positioned beneath them .

Cainhurst Castle has a girl tiptoeing on a shell as a recurring motif  . Most likely this constitutes a reference to Venus, Aphrodite, and the snail goddess Kos.

The Cainhurst Helmet is actually a modification of a sixteenth-century Italian helmet , one depicting a mermaid, and a pair of women in shells  .

The Greek Aphrodite wasn't born normally, but brought forth by the castration of Uranus, whose organs were thrown into the sea, where they formed froth.

From the froth arose the goddess, supposedly drifting on a shell. This association with "white froth", is suspicious, as Fishing Hamlet is teeming with "whiteness".

"White wax", "spermaceti", or white froth associated with giant genitalia could explain the various instances of white gunk in Fishing Hamlet     .

A lot in Bloodborne was influenced by Beksiński    (credit to Andreas Inderwildi). The Orphan's wings look just like a Beksiński painting of foam  .

"Wax" carries connections to "formlessness", while "froth", and "scum" carry connections to depravity. It may be this element that is empowering The Doll  .


Fishing Hamlet was almost certainly inspired by Lovecraft's "Innsmouth", a derelict fishing village were the inhabitants copulated with "Deep Ones ".

This theme of "fish sex" could be why Fishing Hamlet is covered in white "spermaceti", and why Kos is artistically arranged to be like Venus/Aphrodite.

The Deep Ones are led by Father Dagon and Mother Hydra, neither of which has a canonical representation. It's conceivable that Kos is Mother Hydra.

Kos being Mother Hydra is, of course, inconsistent with the idea that that the locals killer her, but consistent with the idea that she's being worshipped.

The Kos Parasite reads: "When the carcass of Kos washed up on the coast, its insides were teeming with tiny parasites, unlike any found in humans."

The carcass of Kos washed up on the coast, meaning it wasn't dragged ashore by whalers, and more like how men used to discover deep-sea beings .

This is also how people discovered "The Thing That Drifted Ashore ", an entity invented by Junji Ito, and almost certainly used as inspiration for "Kos".

Deep Ones are creatures of the depths of the sea, while their "Mother Hydra" is a concept united with "monster mothers" like Echidna  and Tiamat .

"The Hydra" was a child of Echidna. Kos is scaled like a fish , but also like a snake. In folklore, whales were often confused with sea serpents  .

This means there needn't be a distinction between "whale" and "deep-sea creature", it may all add up to one deep-sea cryptid, based on Mother Hydra.

Kos didn't die on the beach. The produce in the village may stem from villagers simply scavenging the parts. But then what killed her, if not the villagers?


Kos, The Dead Mother

A personal theory of mine is that Kos didn't die by consequence of something else, but that she is dead by design, like Nito  or Nashandra .

Kos' void of consciousness, and role as the mother of The Orphan, relate her to the motherly "womb of darkness", the veil of death from which all life is born.

Deadness relates Kos to the Japanese deity "Izanami   ", who died to become a rotting monstrosity, a master of foul spirits, and bane of life.

Kos' vegetative state characterizes her as a "great sleeper", a concept that also encompasses Rosaria, Mother of Rebirth  and Princess Filianore .

The long hair of Rosaria is full of white blemishes , like those found in The Fishing Hamlet, while her soul  mirrors concept art  of The Orphan's spirit.

Old concept art of Rosaria further accentuates Rosaria's entanglement in the strange white slime , which is also present in concept art of Princess Filianore .

"Felt sorry for the poor thing, in all her festering glory? I sowed the seeds. I'll prune the mess. I, Leonhard, swear so upon my vows to the goddess." - Leonhard

"Her slumber is a deceit… A lid covering an overgrown privy; a prop to keep thee from the dark soul of thine desire. Worry not, I am a true friend to thee." - Corrupt Pygmy

Leonhard describes Rosaria as a festering, rotting thing, something in which "seeds must be sown". He speaks of her as if she's a soulless thing, a womb, or soil.

In Aztec tradition, "the womb" is sometimes associated with the all-birthing and all-consuming earth, and at other times with the all-birthing, all-consuming ocean.

The room that holds Rosaria is full of cribs aligned with red cloth   . These underline Rosaria's role as a mother, be it a barely conscious one.


Rosaria doesn't speak and demonstrates only rudimentary signs of consciousness. Filianore is likewise typified as "asleep  ", meaning not conscious.

Filianore is overgrown by vegetation , there are even roots growing out of Filianore's eyes .  The egg she clutches mirrors the child held by Rosaria .

The Old One, the chief villain of Demon's Souls, is a giant lump of vegetation  which must be "lulled back to sleep" by The Maiden in Black .

Filianore's Spear Ornament has a peculiar design  which mirrors the snake of The Orphic Egg . The snake symbolizes the darkness surrounding creation.

The name Filianore means "to help" in Latin, "serpentine" in French and could be tied to Ophelia, the Hamlet character that went mad, then drowned in a river.

Rosaria quite plausibly has some connection to the Inuit goddess of the underworld "Sedna ", also known as "Big Bad Woman" and "Mother of The Deep".

Sedna's myth involves the loss of her fingers, either because she attacked her parents out of hunger, or because she rejected men and chose to marry a dog.

This could explain the enigmatic name "Rosaria's Fingers  ", and provide the proper context for Rosaria inhabiting "The Cathedral of The Deep  ".

Sedna is conceptually interchangeable with deities like Echidna and Tiamat, serpentine evils who birthed countless monsters and embodied the primordial chaos.

The festering Rosaria, the root sprouting Filianore, and the dead mother Kos may all be part of the same concept, "the womb of darkness", birth bed of demons.


Is Kos a reincarnation of the Daughter of Chaos?

Quelaan is a friendly NPC in Dark Souls and leader of the Chaos Servant Covenant . She is colored brightly white and is half human, half mutant spider.

She is addressed by her servant Eingyi  as "The Fair Lady". His lady's in a sorry state: blind, confused and too ill to move.

This may be because took pity on the denizens of Blighttown   and sought to cure them of their misery by absorbing the poison in their bodies.

Did Kos try and do the same? Did she seek to purify the Fishing Hamlet residents or cure The Orphan, and die in the process?

As it happens, Kos has inexplicable insect legs sticking up from her abdomen , which are similar to the legs of a large spider .

"Kos" is actually a Greek island, which was admired throughout the Hellenistic world for its extraordinary Asklepieion (a healing complex).

The facility, dedicated to Asclepius (god of healing), was founded by no other than Hippocrates, known as the father of modern medicine.

This connection to healing does fit the parallel between Kos and Quelaan. If Kos was a healer, she may have been benevolent in nature.

Early concept art of The Fishing Hamlet shows thermal springs , which are symbols of purification and healing, thus supporting the healing theory.

The connection to Asclepius is interesting because The Rod Of Asclepius  is a serpent-entwined staff, similar to Hermes' caduceus, a symbol of mercury.

The caduceus is a recurrent symbol in the Souls universe and the Berserk universe. It is associated with Corruption, Formless Oedon and "The Idea of Evil ".

Furthermore, Asclepius gained his power from Chiron, the divine centaur. As it happens, centaurs appear frequently in Healing Church art    .

Centaurs also appear in the Berserk Manga , as an embossment on the temple that houses "The Apostle Womb ", which From may have paired with Kos.


Is Kos the Aztec goddess Chalchiuhtlicue?

Chalchiuhtlicue was the Aztec goddess of water, rivers, seas, streams, storms, and baptism.

She was a patron of childbirth and a ruler goddess who once transformed her own people into fish

She is associated with sea serpents and seashells. She is married to Tlaloc  god of rain. She also has a son - Tecciztecatl

Tecciztecatl was known as "the old man in the Moon" and he's often pictured carrying a large, white seashell, representing the Moon.

Tecciztecatl is also called "he who comes from the land of the sea-slug shell." 


According to Aztec mythology, the world has been created five times. Four worlds have been destroyed by the gods and we live in the fifth world.

The first world was created by Tezcatlipoca "god of night" - the second by Quetzalcoatl "god of wind" - the third by Tlaloc "god of rain".

For the duration of his reign, each god served as the Sun of that world. Chalchiuhtlicue was to be the fourth Sun.

Her male predecessors had each grown angry with the world's people and they had each destroyed the world's people.

Chalchiuhtlicue presented a welcome change. She was kind to the people.

She also built a bridge linking heaven and earth and those who were in Chalchiuhtlicue's good graces were allowed to traverse it.

But Tezcatlipoca "god of night" would bring the fourth world to an end. 

He convinced Chalchiuhtlicue that her kindness was dishonest and that she was only pursuing selfish needs.

This upset Chalchiuhtlicue so that she cried blood for 52 years.

The resulting floods destroyed the world, but Chalchiuhtlicue turned people into fish so that they would survive.

There are two main myths as to who became the fifth Sun. In one it is the war god Huitzilopochtli, in the other, it is the fire god Nanahuatzin.


Kos is a giant mermaid or sea serpent or sea slug. Chalchiuhtlicue is a lady of water associated with sea serpents, she's also connected to shells.

The Aztecs considered Chalchiuhtlicue's son - "The Old Man in the Moon" - and The Orphan is an old man carrying a moon shaped placenta.

Fishing Hamlet is generally considered to be located in the past. This fits the idea that Fishing Hamlet represents the fourth world destroyed by water.

Chalchiuhtlicue is a patron of childbirth, children, midwives and goddess of baptism. This can be tied to the unusual birth of The Orphan of Kos.

Below are words spoken during an Aztec baptism:


"Behold this element without whose assistance no mortal being can survive. Receive this celestial water that washes impurity from your heart. 

Son receive this divine water, which must be drank that all may live that it may wash you and wash away all your misfortunes,

part of the life since the beginning of the world: this water in truth has a unique power to oppose misfortune. In which part of you is unhappiness hidden?

Leave this child, today, he is born again in the healthful waters in which he has been bathed, as mandated by the will of the god of the sea Chalchiutlicue."


Fishing Hamlet as Tlalocan

Aztec mythology includes 13 heavens, one of which is Tlalocan, ruled over by Chalchiuhtlicue and her spouse Tlaloc, god of rain.

Tlalocan harbors those dead that died by drowning Drowning, lightning strikes Lightning Strikes and those that died physically deformed Physically Deformed.

Aside from being fish-men, the inhabitants of Fishing Hamlet are hunchbacks  , and their priests have lightning attacks.

Tlalocan is also home to the so-called "Acihuat". This "lady of the waters" is believed to be the same as the Mexican Llorona.

La Llorona - the weeping woman - is a ghost who dwells near water. Her cries bring misfortune to all those who hear them.

La Llorona is bound to this world because of her terrible crime: the drowning of her own children in a surge of melancholy.

At night she wanders, looking for children that resemble her own, then drowns them, hoping they will restore her children.

In accordance with the Aztec story, Chalchiuhtlicue did, in fact, drown her own children, parallel to the Acihuat and Llorona.

The Hamlet is full of morose looking Snail Women Morose Snail Women Praying Morose Snail Woman Attacking and there's a distinct weeping in The Orphan's boss music Fishing Hamlet Priest - Weep With Us.

Chalchiuhtlicue transformed her people into fish so that they would survive the flood, these could be The Hamlet Fishmen.

It's always raining in Fishing Hamlet, consistent with Tlaloc "god of rain", and the sky is green Fishing Hamlet - Green Sky, like before a storm Orphan Boss Battle.

In Tlalocan there's supposed to be a "lord of the winds", takes with seeking out more souls on the surface of Earth The Hamlet Priest Fishing Hamlet - Yharnam In The Sea.

He's assisted in his task by toads and "quautiomeh" or "lightning bolts Hamlet Priest - Lightning Bolt", and also by "popocameh" or "thunderclaps".


Consistent with its role as heaven, The Hamlet seems to arrange dead ceremonies Fishing Hamlet - The Boat Lady, particularly for Pthumerians The Labyrinth - Pthumerian Corpse The Labyrinth - Pthumerian Corpse In A Pool Of Blood.

The devs may have been inspired by The Shrine of Storms Shrine of Storms - Interned Skulls Shrine of Storms - Interned Corpse, a place for worshipping tempests and Storm Beasts The Storm King.

The Shrine was also home to The Phosphorescent Slug The Phosphorescent Slug, a vampiric slug that produced Sticky White Stuff Adeline - The Sticky Sound White Slime - Fishing Hamlet Well White Deposits - Snail Women.

This substance works as a candle Sticky White Stuff - Candle Shape Fishing Hamlet - Slug Light. The internal enemy ID name of a Storm Beast is "koei", Japanese for "orphan".

The Orphan itself comes from a dead mother and takes after a DS Hollow or "dead" DS2 Forest Grotesque The OrphanOrphan - Alien Looking Alien Looking Dead, "Nashandra"Hollow's Face And Ribcage - DS1 The Orphan's Face And RibcageThe Orphan's Special Spine A Hollow's Spine - DS2.

It's even so that Londor, the DS3 city of Hollows, seems to refer to the sea Deep Gem Aquamarine Dagger , and to The Hamlet Fishmen Barnacle Encrusted Fishman Barnacle Encrusted Murkman.

The spines that stick out The Orphan's arms The Orphan's Bone Wings, also developed elsewhere Pthumerian Corpse - "Fish Bone" Knocking Corpse - "Fish Bone", particularly in the Labyrinth The Labyrinth - "Fish Bone" A The Labyrinth - "Fish Bone" B.

Pthumerians appear to be a death-worshipping people Pthumerian Graveyard - Boss Arena Pthumerian Wall Of Tombstones Pthumerian Corpse Cement, obsessed with expanding their catacombs Pthumerian Skull Wall, Type A Pthumerian Skull Wall, Type B.

Apart from their corpses showing up in The Hamlet, large cetacean fossils are uniquely found in both these areas Cetacean Fossil - Pthumerian Labyrinth Cetacean Fossil - Fishing Hamlet.

The Pthumerians, who store a lot of their dead in pools of blood Pthumerian Blood Pool, likely endeavored to send their own to Fishing Hamlet.

Pthumerian spirits Evil Labyrinth Spirit In Concept Art, drenched in white, and pregnant, foreshadow the true meaning of this heaven to Pthumerian culture.



Possible Theory on Kos and Orphan; SPECULATION SUPREME (sorry for essay) (Theories by Fiddlesticks)

A lot of this isnt actually written, its more of observation, and it does get weird, but it is sort of possible, I believe. Lets start! What killed Kos? we dont have much to go around with, but we do have some evidences. First the wrecks, masts of sunken ships surround the boss fight area. The fishmen tend to use harpoons a lot, which is overkill for fish. I believe the fishing hamlet would hunt whales as well, a whaling town. They could had found and attacked Kos, threatened by her massive alien form, or thinking she was a strange whale swimming in the sea. Many ships were sunk, but eventually Kos died.

We know that Kos was teeming with alien parasites, Kos parasite info. We also see many little blue worms or slugs on corpses, as well as the strange slugs the fishmen store as food. I think that upon her death, many of these parasites left her body and mutated the village into fishmen, turning them into kin. News of this lead to the scholars of byrgenwerth raiding the hamlet and, according to the accursed brew, searching for eyes in the skulls of the mutant Kin fishmen. This act suggests they are Kin, as Kin of the Cosmos are the elevated humans, closer to great ones but not ascended enough. Master Willem does mention that in order to ascend, we must line our brains with eyes. Landing visceral hits on fishmen also leads to a lot of serum-ish Kin blood flowing from them. Its not the usual red.

Back to Kos, we have another clue on her death, its how the Orphan exits her body. If you look at the flesh where he leaves, and where he ends up, staring at the moon, you can infer that the orphan came from her side. This part lacks evidence as we cant really tell how the anatomy of Kos is, what if thats normal for her type? But in the case that it isnt, what if the Orphans strange exit meant that there was a gaping hole in the stomach of Kos? Exposing all her guts and womb, which is how her umbilical cord was taken? We know from the note three third cords...the scholars know of the power of great one cords. There is no way they would leave treasure like that alone. Kos is dead but seems unhurt with no visible cuts or anything. However, if we flip her over, that maybe a different story. The way her stomach flesh ends is also different from her tail, its so thick and bulbous at the end. It doesnt look natural and it could be from a wound.

Unfortunately all this has many holes OTL, for example, whaling Kos. Kos would be absolutely loaded with harpoon cuts on her back...but I have a counter for this! Its that Kos can fly! My proof is the Orphan, her not fully developed son sprouts wings in his second form. I bet with more development and practice, he could fly. Cant be sure, but if this is the case, Kos takes it to the sky after being attacked, and most of her wounds are at her stomach. Well its all speculation but lets not forget the Orphans lightning power. Most likely Kos has it too, and if she did that in the water, she will hit herself. We also know that the Orphan is not immune to lightning, though he is resistant. I believe it was a power meant to be unleashed as you fly or on dry land.

Next issue, Kos has a very human face, and human hands, could she had once been human, or some church experiment? Maybe, the only counter I have for this chance is the alien parasites in her. Where would those come from? And if she were an experiment, then she needs cleaner, sanitized conditions as her body would be vulnerable during the transition. The presence of alien parasites suggests she wasnt conditioned for things like that, however, the theory that she was once human still has footing. What if she got the parasites after transforming? She fled and lived in some alien place, though how she would find her way to alien parasites holds question. Its also possible that inserting alien parasites found in chalice dungeons was the experiment performed on her, which explains the parasites. However, if that was the case, why dont we see more like her? A result that good, very alien, yet with human features...why is this not replicated or improved? After all, the events of the DLC seem to have occurred a long time ago. I think that she just so happened to be a human like great one, or maybe she was once a human who became a kin, then hundreds or thousands of years later, she ascends from Kin to great one.

Oh, god, this feels like an essay now...next bit, if Kos was attacked by the people of the Hamlet, why do they seem to worship her? Shouldn't they hate her? Well people back then were a superstitious lot. If they witness what they assumed as an ungodly monster suddenly unleashing arcane power, lightning for example, they could think" Oh no, its no devil we angered but a god!". Lets not forget the possibility that the parasites from Kos could had changed the people. Well it could also had been powerful great one magic too, like a curse. Anyway, this change will strengthen the "We made a mistake" thought of the people. A godly punishment for angering a higher being. They worship the carcass as seen by snail women who pray to her. Maybe they hope she would turn them back, however this bit, doesnt have solid footing. If they pray to her, in hopes of returning to humans, then they should also act that way, and not be uncivilized man eaters who live in ruins. Perhaps in awe or fear of her as a great one, they worship her.

Psycho Orphan bit...even less footing here... Ok, lets start with the snail women! They worship Kos fervently, but something is off. Why dont they approach her or shower her with gifts? Many praying ones cant even see her body. That is because of fear. Not of Kos, but of the Orphan. Now this bit gets weird, but bear with me. "Mercy for the wizened child". Wizened means dry, shriveled and wrinkly. Usually by age. We all know that this is in the past, Kos didnt die yesterday, or last year, or a decade ago, she has been dead for a long time. Just look at the wrecked hamlet that used to be civilized, barnacles everywhere, old rotting wood. Lets not forget Ludwig who who, according to Yharnamite hunting clothes, recruited citizens for the hunt a long time ago. This was when there were actually people to recruit. Now they are practically all crazed beasts. Eileen the crow, who used to dream, seems to have hunted and fought until she became an old woman. I am suggesting that the Orphan has been around for a long time, he was not just birthed right when we approached him.

He heard or sensed our approach and exited his mother. It is too much of a coincidence that he is birthed right when we approach and that mom is dead. The snail women avoid the area, because moment a thing gets close, he exits and if it still approaches, he crushes and maybe eats it. The orphan sleeps there. This wizened/ old child, is not a baby. Maybe it takes a hundred years for a great one to grow up, we dont know, but this is not a newborn baby. It is a child. Look at Ariannas new born. A legit baby. The orphan doesnt even face his mom when he comes out. He knows she is dead, long ago. Look at how affectionately the tiny baby of Arianna stares at her. Its an obvious weak newborn baby, but not this Orphan.

The wizened child, might only be a child by behaviour or state of mind, always crying over his mother and never leaving her side. How long has he been here? Note that we hear him crying before he comes out. He isnt drowning in fluids, he can open his mouth and cry. He has serious issues, misses his Mom so much, he went insane, harboring this nightmare. He probably hoped to renter his mothers womb after he kills us and his tantrum ends, except he never kills us because we keep coming back. I know it sounds crazy, but think about it. The first thing this new born baby does to the first man or woman he sees, is approach slowly, walking, not crawling, then run at full speed and leap, trying to crack their skulls open with his weapon. That is no newborn, he has killed and maybe eaten other unwelcome visitors before. The snail women pray, but they dont want to pray too near. They hide in a cave, away from his sight or hearing. They know what awaits them if they approach.

I get that this is wild, The Orphan has a placenta attached to him, sign of a baby, but what if that is his only reminder of his mother left? He refuses to totally consume it and evolve. You have to force him to consume part of it, and he instantly gets bigger and grows wings. I bet if he gorged on the whole thing he would be as big as Kos, but he wont because its his reminder of her. But wouldnt it have rotted away if he was that old? Well the body of Kos isnt rotting. The dream may preserve this or make it immortal. It could also regenerate. I mean it looks alive, and all. What if it could restore itself, but an act like eating it permanently drains it?

Like I said, lots of holes here like the connection to Gehrman being an old man, and the Orphan looking old and the potential scythe like form of his placenta. For me, I dont find the placenta very scythe ish, its more like a club or sword, a chain sword then.As for the connection to Gehrman...well the first hunter could had participated in the raid of the village. I dont have much to go around here, but maybe the Orphan felt a bond between the fish people and him. He hated the hunters for the raid. But the fish people seem to fear him but in a god way...may not have been that close. They dont send guards near him... We know that the Orphan has a black ghost that truly holds the nightmare. We also know that Gehrman, the first hunter, could had lead the raid, as he was the first and probably best hunter at the time. What if Gehrman found the corpse of Kos, cut the belly open and killed the Orphan, took the cord too. The orphan having died in the real world can only sustain himself by nightmare. He unleashes his curse and the nightmare and is reborn. He creates a new form for himself in the nightmare, but all is not well. He is miserable and misses his mom greatly. He cant move on and refuses to develop, ages as a child, becoming a wizened child. Note that you no longer see the Organ he came out of ( very heavy speculation here) it just vanishes. I think he tucks or nudges it back in with his feet. To keep his mothers appearance up. He doesnt want to see Kos injured so she would appear alive, even though he knows she is dead. He probably flipped her over if her wounds were exposed so he would not see them. He could use her as a house or blanket, creepily crawling back into her womb to sleep or rest by entering the massive stomach cut. He is probably too big for the natural way. All this madness torments him until you end him as the hunter.

But the theory about the Orphan's form being after Gehrman isnt bad. Its a nightmare, and for the child of Kos, the baddest, scariest thing in his short life must have been the first hunter who could have opened his mom, took the cord and ended his life in the waking world. As for how Gehrman sleeps easier after killing the Orphans ghost...well i only have more loose speculation there. The Orphan wanted to trap him in the nightmare, but could not because he was already caught in the Hunters Dream. This child cannot match the fully developed Moon Presence. He only succeeds in a piece of Gehrman's soul, tormenting him at times through nightmares I guess. This ends my essay, sorry for long read. Remove if its too long haha...


This character can be found at The Coast, and any notes on any other encounters

    • Can this NPC be an ally?: No
    • Can this NPC be an enemy?: No




Other Notes:

  1. One may assume that Kos was cursed and sick and that this caused her death. The description of the Kos Parasite states that she was teeming with alien parasites. The skin of her belly looks heavily inflamed and has a putrid color. When Orphan of Kos is born, the placenta he drags behind him looks a great deal like a cursed blood gem.



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    • Anonymous

      26 Mar 2020 15:46  

      It's not Yharnam you see beneath the water of the Fishing Hamlet. The entire area is based upon The Shadow Over Innsmouth, where there is an underwater city of the Dagon-worshipping fish folk.

      • Anonymous

        05 Nov 2019 07:27  

        Why nobody remembers that Micolash says "Ahh, Kos, or some say Kosm" he is deffinatly refering to this Kos

        • Anonymous

          07 May 2019 07:02  

          The notion that the it was the villagers were the cause of Kos's death seems a little too (no pun intended) fishy, for a few quick reasons. 1. Lady Maria is the boss /defending/ the entire village. She says ""A corpse... should be left well alone." So you can infer a few things from that line alone: - She knows what actually happened in the village. - Because she knows she's actively choosing to hide the "incident" behind the clock-tower. - She knows others from the nightmare would get nosy about what happened in that village. 2. Immediately after the boss fight, that one Fishing Hamlet Priest says "Byrgenwerth...Byrgenwerth...Blasphemous murderers...Blood-crazed fiends...Atonement for the wretches...By the wrath of Mother Kos" Take note that when he's saying this, he's very resentful. He and the residents there, HATE Byrgenwerth. Why? Because there's a 99% chance that folks from Byrgenwerth (Most likely members of the healing church at this point in the time line) raided their home in the name of scholarly discoveries and did horrible things. They are actually very aware and they know who's to blame for their misfortune. If the blame fell on to Kos then they wouldn't turn around and ask her of all the Great Ones to curse Byrgenwerth and the Hunters. 3. According to the moon rune "The Great Ones that inhabit the nightmare are sympathetic in spirit, and often answer when called upon.". This again would make the notion that the villagers had any ill-will against Kos herself moot. They called upon her, and she (presuming) heard their pleas and granted a curse lasting generations. If Kos was killed by these villages, she wouldn't harbor this "sympathetic" nature that The Great Ones harbor. That wouldn't make much sense. If they killed Kos and then were violated, they'd prolly ask some other Great One instead, not the corpse of a dead one. If anything if anyone would have a hand in Kos's death? Bygenworth. If this takes place before the different groups split apart, then those under Willem would be the perfect candidates to lead this unethical campaign. The fact that you can find one of Lady Maria's Weapons IN this village and the fact that /she's/ the one that lies between us and the village, she either: - /Was/ apart of the actual incident and lives with regret about being a a part of the whole thing. - /Knew/ about it and was indirectly involved, which is why she looks after the patients instead. The last thing about how she died, I propose a mini theory: So we know, or at least the Bloodborne lore explains to us that the race of The Great Ones cannot bare their own offspring. What if Kos /was/ a Great One that died for that very reason. I say this because adaptations don't develop over night, they happen over spans of generations. The Great Ones are still a race of beings so there is going to be some evolution right? Think about it like this, the DLC is set in the /past/ the days of Lady Maria and Ludwig. Kos could be a Great One of the past when it was probably possible for them to procreate with each other or maybe even asexually- ultimately Kos does seem like the mos likely candidate to bare offspring. It may explain The Orphan as well. Kos could have died while giving birth, but she is sympathetic in nature as are Great Ones once called upon. So perhaps, she heard their pleads, and as a dying act of kindness, gave them the curse they've begged for and died after the birth. Many sea creatures do return to shore to have their offspring too so it's not that far-fetched to think Kos /choose/ to lay on the beach to give birth. And in case it still seems crazy, after you defeat The Orphan, the priest says this: "Ah, sweet child of Kos returned to the ocean..." This to me can have a double meaning. Poetically, it means The Orphan is reunited with their mother back in the ocean. It is a child of Kos and Kos is originally a Great One of the Sea. Another take on this could do with the mini theory I posed. If you know sea turtles, then you know that sea turtles will lay their eggs deep in the sand. Then the babies dig their way out and skitter back to the ocean to be with their mothers. Again, perhaps Kos was like a female sea turtle in this regard. She was on shore to give birth to The Orphan but died. The Orphan reluctantly remains because his mother is the literal source of their power. They are competently dependent of their mother's corpse. But when you kill him, in a way you "break the shackles" that kept the two linked. Kos the mother is dead on shore, but The Orphan is a juvenile Great One (technically speaking) they can still "grow up" but cannot, so long as he remains attached to their mother's corpse.

          • Anonymous

            03 Aug 2018 16:32  

            Relating to the death of Kos, I find it more likely that she died when the "ocean" receded. For one thing, it's peculiar that the water elevation near the clocktower is much higher than where you find Kos, by about a hundred feet or more. Second, the entirety of the Hamlet is covered from head to toe in barnacles, which typically do not grow out of water. This could imply the entirety of the Hamlet was once beneath the ocean. The villagers, being fish, could have lived just fine in this environment. "Great volumes of water serve as a bulwark guarding sleep, and an augur of the eldritch Truth. Overcome this hindrance, and seek what is yours." When Byrgenwerth commenced its research into the cosmos and discovered the Fishing Hamlet, the village was symbolically drained, or at least partially drained upon their arrival. Perhaps the water wasn't lowered to the level that we find it later, and Kos was still alive then. The water may have only been receded to the level we find it at the beginning of the level, which is noticeably higher than where we find Kos, as if there are two oceans lying one atop the other. This would have allowed Byrgenwerth to collect both the eyes of the villagers as well as an array of phantasms, the "augurs of the eldritch Truth." Later, in the time of the Old Hunters, the Healing Church manages to reestablish the bridge to the Fishing Hamlet through experiments performed in the Orphanage and the Astral Clocktower. When they arrive, the water has again receded, revealing each the lower half of the village, the caverns used by the villagers to capture phantasms, as well as the remains of Kos that "washed up on the coast." The closer that humanity comes to understanding the nature of Kos, the more that her habitat is eroded, as if her very existence depends upon secrecy. This process inevitably resulted in the "drowning" of Kos. Allegorically speaking, the ocean, this "bulwark guarding sleep," represents the cosmos and all things yet unknown. Through intensive research, this cosmic water begins to slacken, revealing the bloated remains of what the scholars had originally found so captivating. Before this, the scholars of Byrgenwerth were guided merely by faith, tantalized by fanciful dreams of their cosmic mermaid goddess floating among the stars. It is through the horrific experiments carried out by the Healing Church that this ideal is diminished, replaced by the harsh realization of the less-than-beautiful truth of the universe. Faith and science play a major role throughout the meta-series. In Dark Souls, it is described as a "sin" to channel faith into sorcery, or vice versa, to use intelligence to cast miracles. In Bloodborne, "faith" motivates Byrgenwerth in their arcane research, a trend inherited by the Healing Church. Laurence seeks to create a religious order based on the power of blood healing under the impression that he can "heal" the world of its stupidity. Ultimately, what this resulted in was the blind ignorance of the Yharnamites, who quickly devolved into beasts owing to their blind faith. The danger of sciences governed by faith presented here is eerily reminiscent to eugenics, the insidious belief that a human's worth is determined by their genetics, and that "dirty blood" will bring about the ruin of civilization--which incidentally led to the events of the Second World War. As it happens, Lovecraft was also a staunch believer in "superior genetics." How appropriate that the Old Hunters should take place in what appears to be the Age of Enlightenment, when faith and science became entangled in dispute as humanity had no choice but to face the grave realities of evolution, disease, and death.

            • Anonymous

              29 Jul 2018 15:23  

              There is a recurring theme that there is an Unsightly Secret hidden within the nightmare. Further emphasized by describing that some sort of dark crime was hidden.
              Another area locked, in this case without explanation, is the forbidden woods.
              The lecture hall, suspected to relate to byrgenwerth, is connected directly to the Nightmare Frontier and Nightmare of Mensis. The latter, containing Micolash, Host of the Nightmare.
              There is, in other words, a direct link from Micolash, Host of the Nightmare, to both Kos and Byrgenwerth.
              Could Micolash's madness relate to the crime that took place in the hunter's nightmare?
              A leap in logic, but it could be that Micolash is mad from guilt. Donning the Mensis Cage (said to allow one to connect to the great ones) as an attempt to atone.
              Therefore, I have the following conclusion regarding the cause of Kos's death.
              Kos was, in fact, murdered. And not by anyone, but by the scholars at Byrgenwerth who, emboldened by their research and strict in their fear of the old blood, heard word of Kos's presence and decided to take it out for good. In essence, the very first hunt proper. Laurence, infuriated by this, leaves Byrgenwerth. Provost WIllem, understanding this, hopes that shame for the murder of a great one does not lead the vicar to the blood, saying to himself after Laurence departed, "Fear the old blood. By the gods... fear it, Laurence." Eventually, for some motivation, be it guilt or curiosity, they captured or allowed residence to Rom, the Vacuous Spider, a secondary great one blessed by Kos. After Rom took up residence in the moonside lake, Byrgenwerth was sealed off. And with that, the secret hidden, until a fateful hunt one moonlit night.

              • Anonymous

                19 May 2018 21:57  

                bit of a necro thread i suppose but it is just on the main discussion so here goes

                i was attacking the body for awhile after the fight cause of the little smokey stuff coming out of it. and the cutscene implies that she (the mother) goes back to sea. is it possible that the parasite is the smokeyness itself, and it finds hosts to travel in such as the mother body, and the birth of the orphan of kos was a way to try and make a new body for itself to live on land. once witnessing the body orphan kos die, it seeps out of mother kos. and watches us. when attacked it retreats to the sea again? im only on my first playthrough of the dlc but am on NG++++ (had to wait to buy the dlc after the free monthly release of bloodborne lol) and i havent read too much lore yet on dlc stuff but just from what i witnessed. it seemed like it was trying to expand from the sea, and we stopped it ?

                • Anonymous

                  02 Oct 2017 07:32  

                  may i just say that i looks like she can leave the fish carcass and on stays in it to swim through the land also could it be that the people of the fishing hamlet may have ingested the parasites, maybe the parasites left her body and infected the fish the people got infected and worshiped kos like the people of innsmouth worshiped hydra and dagon, but back to my original point it looks like the skin of her body from about mid neck all the way down her body opens like a cloak of maybe a dress also the orphan may very well be her child could it be that instead of having givin birth the parasites are like ant colonies there is always a queen and the orphan ingested a queen parasite as a child and Gehrman along with lady maria couldn't bring them selves to kill it so Gehrman took and left lady maria in charge of protecting the fishing hamlet while he worked to contain the spreading plague of beast? i don't know but that my theory.

                  • Anonymous

                    29 Jul 2017 22:04  

                    I'm trying to fit different characters/creatures from Bloodborne into a sort of Tarot deck, and for Kos, I can't tell if she would represent more closely the Sun or the Tower.

                    The Sun depicts a golden star (or, you know, the sun) over a coastal landscape, from the sea of which rises a crustacean, representing the subconscious. On land, a wolf and a domesticated dog bay toward the sun. Kos reminds me of the crustacean, and the glowing "sun" in the Hunter's Nightmare obviously plays the part, but I wonder if maybe the Orphan of Kos could replace the wolf or the dog? The Orphan's first reaction to being born is apparently to look to the "sun" and weep. If either the wolf or the dog represents the Orphan, could the counterpart be the Hunter themselves?

                    As for the Tower, which is also referred to as "the Lightning" in some sets, it represents the sudden reversal of knowledge. Lightning is unusually prevalent in the Fishing Hamlet, having been harnessed by the fishwitches, as well as originating from the corpse of Kos herself when the Orphan wails. The entirety of the Hamlet lies in the shadow of a lighthouse, which may parallel the Tower as it is illustrated with a shining gold crown at its peak, underneath of which extends a jagged expanse of stones.

                    The Tower would probably better suit the narrative of the Fishing Hamlet, which apparently revealed a secret so insidious that the Healing Church decided it was better left forgotten...

                    • Anonymous

                      25 Jul 2017 19:08  

                      Kos reminds me of Tiamat, the salt water goddess of primordial existence. Tiamat was killed by her own child, Marduk, the "King of the Gods," and her divided body became the heavens and the earth.

                      • Anonymous

                        04 Jul 2017 22:22  

                        After spending a lot of time in the Fishing Hamlet with my monocular, I've got some weird musings to share.

                        The phantasms flooding the Hamlet are unusual, even in a world filled with extraordinary creatures. Unlike the phantasms described elsewhere, which are depicted more like slugs with eye stalks, the creatures captured by the fishermen look more like squids, or at least something like a cephalopod, with a small opening into their body amidst numerous small tentacles. In fact, they look more like the Hunter after becoming an infant Great One, though I doubt these creatures are bound to mature into gods. Though this incongruence suddenly makes sense when one considers one of the Brain Fluid descriptions, "In the early days of the Healing Church, the cosmos was associated with the ocean, and so the cerebral patients would imbibe water, and listen for the howl of the sea." It seems the unusual invertebrates were once envisioned as marine cephalopods, but were later understood to be more like gastropods, now making their way onto land.

                        Most of these creatures glow blue, except for the ones already captured in barrels, or the ones being used as candle wax. As theorized already, the fishermen seem to use these phantasms as fuel for their bombs, as well as traps in the glass jars throughout the Hamlet. Though, the flames cast off by all these items seems somewhat unusual compared to the flames emitted by the Hunter's Torch, molotovs, or by weapons imbued with fire paper. This flame is peculiarly brighter, a sort of pale gold color, accented by a slight grayish-purple corona. This flame is seen in two other places: dancing on the mummified bodies that act as traps in Yahar'gul, as well as by dropped items.

                        Well, this seems coincidental at first, until you remember that the rate of finding dropped items is determined by your level of "Discovery." Discovery is also affected by your Arcane level, and there are a few other ways to boost Discovery that shed intriguing insight into this puzzle of color symbolism. One method is through the use of the Milkweed rune, which transforms the Hunter into a Lumenwood, "feeding phantasms in its luscious bed." Incidentally, the Empty Phantasm Shell item description states, "Phantasms guide us, and lead us to further discoveries." It would appear that phantasms are not "discoveries" in their own right, but that their "blood," or whatever resides inside them in place of blood.

                        This concept is furthered by the Madman's Knowledge and Great One's Wisdom, which depict blue-gold "slugs" of flame sprouting from a cloven skull. The description for Madman's Knowledge states, "Coming into contact with the Great Ones is considered a blessing, for even if it drives one mad, it allows one to serve a grander purpose, for posterity." This indicates that "madmen" do not understand their own revelations, but their madness can be deciphered by others in order to formulate a "safer" understanding of the cosmos. If phantasms "lead to further discovery," can it be surmised that they represent madness, and that the flame within is the truth residing within insanity? The entire game offers what can be perceived as fractured clues toward the lore and the significance of the story--it simply takes a Hunter great enough to piece together the puzzle.

                        Circling back to the aforementioned "pale gold" color, it doesn't seem so unusual now that the moon over the Hunter's Nightmare should be painted this same tone. If this Nightmare represents the secrets of Byrgenwerth and of the Healing Church, it appears they at last made a climactic discovery--but the discovery itself was too terrible for them to bear, and so they absconded the eldritch Truth in a feigned attempt to protect Yharnam from further destruction. Unfortunately, the thirst for knowledge runs deep, and their attempts to preserve the secret failed, resulting in the curse of Yharnam. Laurence's Skull mentions that his human skull "represents his past, and what he failed to protect," as if it was his own decision to seal off the Nightmare, but it seems that to his dismay, his successors in the Healing Church had their own intentions. Curses, as described by the Cursed Pthumeru Chalice, are the result of "inciting the anger of the Great Ones."

                        The blue glow of the "live" phantasms is also symbolically imperative, relating them to the celestial mobs of the Orphanage, as well as to the majority of arcane attacks. These creatures are the product of the Research Hall, who evidently never understood their own revelations. "The Choir was a creation of the Orphanage, where young orphans were raised in secret as potent unseen thinkers for the Healing Church." The beings known as the Living Failures were of the same brand as the Celestial Emissary, but it seems their mental state was slightly too deteriorated, and thus nothing of value could be divulged from them. It took many years until the Choir was able to perfect their craft, when they began to use lowly Yharnamites as subjects, using a mixture of water and quicksilver to create the celestial mobs (closer inspection of their blood as it stains white clothing reveals it is actually a silvery fluid, and they frequently drop quicksilver bullets upon death despite not possessing firearms. Quicksilver, being the archaic term for liquid mercury, greatly affects the central nervous system. An interesting detail in the Research Hall is the way some of the patients seem to be scratching at themselves frantically, which is later understood when the player finds numerous headless corpses in the Fishing Hamlet covered in small, bioluminescent insects. Mercury poisoning is known to cause a hallucination that bugs are crawling all over one's body, or just under their skin.)

                        Water also plays a major role in the early story, appearing in relation to everything and anything arcane. Arcane attacks in and of themselves are mostly represented by icy blue snowflakes. Lakes and other large bodies of water serve as "bulwarks guarding sleep" (the ship masts rising from the sea may not be the result of shipwrecks, but are present to effectively illustrate this quote. A bulwark is the body of a shipping vessel). Snow falls steadily in the Cathedral Ward, and Cainhurst is blanketed under a thick carpet of snow, possibly representing the onslaught of the Executioners. The Research Hall patients likely imbibed water in suggestion of hydrocephalus and water intoxication, both of which affect the nervous system and can cause hallucinations.

                        Thus, with all this in mind, we begin to slowly understand the nature of Kos, and of the Truth unearthed by Laurence.

                        It would appear that the Fishing Hamlet was initially discovered by Byrgenwerth, but had been revisited by Laurence in later years. Byrgenwerth's aim was to collect the eyes of the villagers, a plan potentially conceived by Willem himself. Whether this raid was successful remains unknown, but judging from the deformed statues present in both the Hamlet and outside the abandoned Byrgenwerth, the school was seemingly indebted to these individuals. (The statues themselves look somewhat like the fishermen, but only in Byrgenwerth do they begin to take on the appearance of Amygdala, hinting at some sort of connection between Amygdala and the Hamlet. This is further evidenced by the more "octopus-like" statues of Amygdala decorating the stairs of the Grand Cathedral, which wield spears similar to the harpoons used by the fishermen.) Either way, Byrgenwerth was at least able to make their way to the carcass of Kos, which was already long dead, if one considers the Kos Parasite's description--"When the body of Kos washed up on the coast, its insides were teeming with tiny parasites, unlike any found in humans." Although, it's unusual that Micolash would continue pray to Kos if he knew she was already dead. Furthermore, if their initial discovery revealed that Kos was already lost, how could she have granted eyes to the vacuous Rom? Unless, of course, these "prayers" are nothing more than wishes that experimentation using Kos' remains would somehow elevate their thoughts--could the eyes "granted" to Rom be the eyes of the slaughtered Hamlet villagers?

                        It doesn't seem that the Orphan was yet present when Byrgenwerth found Kos, otherwise they never would have been able to gather the Kos Parasites. These parasites, though they seem to disappear in later years, can actually be found in a specific enemy--the brainsucker. Looking closely at the back of their cranium, one can find a long scar running from ear-to-ear, evidently stitched shut in some ghastly experiment. The hideous invertebrate that sprouts from their skull was clearly placed there synthetically. Judging from its appearance, the parasite within the brainsucker looks surprisingly similar to the Kos Parasite, at least as it is portrayed in the inventory graphic. The large tubular structure is semi-transparent and bulbous, but looks frail and uneven, unlike any phantasms. The tentacles sprouting from the brainsucker's face also appear similar to the strange, worm-like tendrils at the center of the Kos Parasite. Apparently, the brainsuckers were the result of an attempt to try and give these parasites some sort of "voice" by implanting them in a human host, and by "stimulating phantasms."

                        The "oldest" brainsucker one can find (not counting the disregard for time in the Chalice Dungeons) is probably the one beside the tree at Byrgenwerth, suggesting Byrgenwerth was the first to discover the Kos Parasites. The brainsuckers found in the Upper Cathedral Ward must be the Healing Church's continuation of the study at the old college, evidence again of Laurence's failure to stop his successors from perpetrating the Nightmare. What could this experiment have possibly produced, though?

                        Bear with me: the Kos Parasites eventually evolved to become Ebrietas. Ebrietas has always remained a mystery regarding her placement in the story, but I believe I may have figured out what she is. Undeniably, she must have some relation to Kos, considering they each resemble nudibranchs, and Ebrietas is specifically referred to as "Daughter of the Cosmos," an obvious allusion to Kos. The most prevalent question surrounding Ebrietas seems to be, why is her arena called the "Altar of Despair," and why does she seem to mourn in front of a statue of Rom? Well, if Ebrietas is a result of an experiment using the Kos Parasite, or if she is a mature version of a Kos Parasite, couldn't one consider Kos to be her surrogate mother?

                        And as for the statue of Rom, it seems she is praying that her mother might one day be revived, considering Rom is the Great One presiding over dark secrets. The name "Ebrietas" itself is unusual, as many fans now know it is Latin for "intoxication." There appear to be multiple references to intoxication in Bloodborne--blood intoxication, intoxication by purification, and water intoxication. Drunkenness seems to by synonymous with obsession, and illustrates that heavy doses of anything, even of just actions, heralds the downfall of an individual. What, then, is Ebrietas' obsession?

                        Firstly, it's not a bad idea to compare and contrast her bodily fluids. Ebrietas, like the brainsuckers, the celestial larvae, and the celestial mobs, normally bleeds a silvery fluid, most likely liquid mercury. She also vomits blood, but this blood is dark and induces Frenzy for some unknown reason. The noodles sprouting from her head (in concept art, these noodles emit the exact same blue tendrils as the Celestial Emissary) issue a yellowish fluid similar to that released by Amygdala and the One Reborn. Giving her a visceral attack coats her in a heavy black fluid, though it appears to be thick red blood (thick blood is regarded as "the result of obsession" in the Thick Coldblood description). In the end--I have no clue what she's drunk on. She pukes blood, though, so... I guess she could be feeding off of "frenzied" madmen? Was she, too, once a patient at the Healing Church, now enlightened to the stature of a Great One?

                        Phew, I gotta slow down... I won't even get into the topic of the Orphan in this reply. That's a whole other spiel.

                        • Anonymous

                          21 Apr 2017 12:50  

                          it's a very, very far stretch I'm making here, but....
                          Could the Moon Presence possibly be a decayed, skeletal rendition of Kos?
                          I mean, both the Doll and Gehrman have prooven ties to the DLC. It'd make a bit of sence having the Moon Presence be an odd mirror of Kos.
                          VattiVidya made a video (Bloodborne DLC > 50 Interesting Insights) that suggested the idea that the umbilical cords were the "stolen child (parts)" of Kos
                          . This could add another explanation as to why the Moon Presence reacts aggressively when you've consumed all 3 cords?
                          it's a far stretch for lore, but an interesting idea

                          • Anonymous

                            18 Mar 2017 19:04  

                            some parts of what you say deserve many congratulations and the part of the child who is old in reality and uses its mom's body as a lair...well that's perfect, the same about the prayers who keep the distance. The orphan surely is born much time ago and can not separate from her mom. I think Kos was a loving mom, and not bad as the others great ones. Even her aspect is too different from the other great beings. I am also sure the population tried to kill her, and she broke the ships. The old fish-man says "for the wrath of mother Kos", so the population of the village has witnessed her rage, probably because they attacked her, and killing her could mean killing her beloved son. Probably it was she who transformed the population in fish-men, probably because her nature is not a killing nature (as a great being she could kill everyone in the village).Then the hunters came to the village to study the population, they may have taken some of them to do horrible experiments, indeed we know the experiments of the church had the aim of creating great beings artificially (bosses Living Failures), and probably Kos defended the now fish-men population, becoming then worshipped. The population knows how evil is the orphan, the old fish-man says to "forgive" the orphan. Since it is the son of the loving Kos, and since it passed through a tragedy, the population somehow "forgive" him, but never approaches him. He is still an evil being. The circle is closed ^^

                            • Anonymous

                              lore?05 Jul 2016 14:48  

                              She should be an inhabitant of the hamlet but was impregnated by an unknown-not-yet-appear-before great one for a surrogate child (which is the last boss). That act turned her into the monster we saw and that somehow affects and transformed all the females in the hamlet into something like her, hence the snail ladies...

                              • Anonymous

                                Quelaan05 Jul 2016 14:48  

                                That theory is so dumb I cannot express it in words. One similarity in roles does not suggest reincarnation. If it did, then we are in fact playing Dark Souls 3.

                                • Anonymous

                                  Fisherman deity05 Jul 2016 14:48  

                                  A youtube user pointed out that Kos might have been a deity worshipped by the fishermen, and when the college hunters attacked, they killed Kos. As a result, the villagers or the orphan cursed the hunters to be forever trapped in the Hunter's Nightmare. Her death was a tragedy to the fishermen, and was probably done by Gehrman and Maria, hence their guilt.

                                  • Anonymous

                                    Relation to Rom05 Jul 2016 14:48  

                                    Micholas speaks like Rom was a person transformed into a Great One (or Kin) by Kos, and that Micholas wishes to receive this gift as well.

                                    • Anonymous

                                      Heavy editing needed05 Jul 2016 14:48  

                                      Kos Parasite outright states that the corpse that washed up on the beach was in fact Kos, and most of the games dialogue and descriptions relating to her can lead one to safely assume she's probably a great one, though what this means in regards to her ability to give birth seems to be unkown. Also, Kos being a reincarnation of Quelaan? There's nothing wrong with wild-mass-guessing, but an official page on a wiki that people access for reliable and probable information is no place to throw up conjecture that is more than likely wrong, or at least highly fanciful. Please try to adhere to a certain standard here.

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