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Defiled Chalice, also known as the Cursed and Defiled Chalice, is a Chalice in Bloodborne. You can create this chalice dungeon by combining the materials listed below at one of the Tomb Altars in Hunter's Dream. This dungeon never changes Bosses, design or loot.
Defiled Chalice Information
- Depth: 4
- Area: Pthumeru
- Glyph: wma2
- Materials:
- Ritual Blood (4): 9
- Bastard of Loran: 2
- Arcane Haze: 22
- Blood Echoes: 5500
Location
- Lower Pthumeru Chalice Dungeon (drops from Layer 4's boss)
- For higher chances of co-op with the Fextralife community, create your Cursed Pthumerian Defilement dungeon to unlock it, then join Fextra Defiled dungeon via this Glyph: b4bi2s3n
Bosses
- Keeper of the Old Lords (Layer 1)
- Watch Dog of the Old Lords (Layer 2)
- Amygdala (Layer 3)
Drops
- Cursed and Defiled Root Chalice (Watchdog of the Old Lords)
- Great Pthumeru Ihyll Chalice (Amygdala)
Fextravideo
Heres a video showing how to fight the bosses in Cursed Pthumeru Chalice
Notes
- Permanently lowers players hit points by 50% while inside the dungeon
- The amounts of physical damage received and heal will be decreased along with the decreased max health, but elemental damage will do normal damage (making keeper of the old lords in layer 1 surprisingly tough, being able to 1 shot players).
- Contains enemies belonging to both Pthumeru and Hintertomb.
- Drops very good radial blood gems, which increases physical damage by an enormous amount (20%+) at the cost of decreased durability.
- Sometimes this chalice would be glitched and wouldn't drop by BLB in lower P, simply search for the fix shared defile.
- An effective method of dispatching with the Keeper of the Old Lords in the First Layer, is to utilize Beast Roar with a high DPS weapon, and lock him in a chain.
Trivia
- Be careful when exiting the Layer 1 lamp room - there is an oil puddle directly in front of the exit, along with a Labyrinth Ritekeeper hiding to the right, so charging out recklessly could result in getting one-shotted.
- Called the "Cursed and Defiled Chalice" in EU game.
- Drops the "Defiled Root Chalice" in EU game, even though it is called "Cursed and Defiled Chalice".
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Its 2023, idek how long after the games release. Ive just finished this dungeon
Ive been at it for 2 whole days
I understand if someone wants to spike the difficult so high but to have a defiled chalice enroute to getting the final chalice is ****ing absurd, there was no reason for this.
All the bosses in this dungeon are arse. Not because of the damage increase, but because of the arenas. There is just no ****ing space to beat them. I beat the the keeper fairly, I almost beat the watchdog fairly but its dash was its own demise. It was at 20% hp, it dashed so hard into a wall it ****ing broke its own ai (imagine it hit its head to hard lmao). I was so mad that I couldnt beat him fairly.
It took me 4 whole hours worth of attempts to beat amygdala. Orphan of Kos took me 15 tries and I dont mind, it was a way better fight because atleast I had space to move, Im not bad at dodging at all, but if you give me no space to dodge, and then no health to tank either, the **** do you expect me to do.
I came up with a new strat just to beat this ****er because no amount of ideas online helped me
Eat Pellets and smack its tail. The ****ER JUST DOESNT MOVE. Sometimes he will jump, but then just stand in place, dont even aim for its head, and go back to the tail. If he does the backwards swipe where you're standing, move away and come back. the blood pellets do wonders.
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why are dogs in all souls games so so bad? like theyre so annoying, if someone handed me a drink in this chalice i would assume it to be poison
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this dungeon is such garbage i dont see how running in circles around amygdala for 5 min to just die because of genuinely horrendous hitboxes every fight makes this fun or interesting at all
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Just practice the keeper and the watchdog on the depth 1 and 2 chalices. You can basically learn their movesets risk free.
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I dislike the chalice dungeons as a whole, but I utterly despise this loathsome pile of scrapped code that somehow became a functioning part of an actual game. Having every enemy kill you in one hit is the kind of difficulty that a twelve year old would come up with. It doesn't provide anything resembling an interesting or fun challenge; it's just tedious and frustrating. I beat this several years ago and somehow forgot just how utterly awful it is until I tried doing it again (it's probably lazier and more poorly implemented than anything in any other Soulsborne game and I'm including the Bed of Chaos and the worst parts of Dark Souls 2). At least I learned that if you stand under Amygdala's taint, it can't hurt you and you can deal full damage by using overhead swings with a long enough weapon.
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I started playing Bloodborne late last year for the first time. Since then, I have been whittling away at the chalice dungeons. I just completed the defiled dungeon, and definitely agree that the second and third bosses were challenging. Took about 1.5 hours to beat the Watchdog, and about 2 hours to beat Amygdala. I guess I was able to diagnose a solution for the Keeper easier, as I only had to try that fight 6 times.
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I see everyone hating on this dungeon and I get it. The only problem was making this required for achievements. Honestly, I have the most fun in cursed and defiled dungeons. You can’t just just rush bosses with an over-leveled character. You have to play flawlessly or you lose. Great way to truly learn boss movesets.
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beat it for the first time today, and maybe my build is just overpowered, but IMO the difficulty is overhyped. Watchdog sucked, but Keeper and Amygdala were fairly straight forward, just playing more cautious than I would in their other encounters
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I don't remember this chalice being this difficult 8 years ago.
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The AoE fest that is the WatchDog becomes 10 times more annoying when he can one shot you with a single charge. I had to summon Yharnam's version of Let Me Solo Her but even then it's hard.
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Rifle spear is good in keeper fight ngl,if you know the charged R2 range of the spear,you can keep cheesing it and it will die eventually, works on both phase 1 and 2.Or furthermore,you can get a hunter tool that deals damage like small tony or executioner's glove even if you don't have much arcane,just get blood bullet before charging up and you'll be back at full health.Good luck on the platinum,i'm here experiencing pain at watch dog with you all.
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i went mad over this ****ing dungeon, amy on layer 3 is such a ****ing nuissance
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This is from the same developers who made The Old Hunters. Just proof that anyone can make mistakes, I guess.
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Also worth noting is fact that some of the Watchdogs moves can instantly send summons to shadow realm where they dissapear and die after like 30 seconds
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Don’t you just love getting one shotted by everything? No? What do you mean this isn’t fun in the slightest?
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sorry bloody crow, defiled chalice keeper now taking the spot for worst ****ing enemy in bloodborne. dont worry, youre still second place
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I cant get this chalices. I killed two times the bloodletting beast, but I only dropped the cursed and defiles chalice. I cant drop this one. Help?
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If you're struggling with staying alive, consider runes like Blood Rapture. At 35 Vitality (628 HP), you can restore half your health with a visceral attack. Great Lake is damn near necessary for bosses. 4% reduction doesn't sound like much, but I believe it works twice on split damage sources (someone please correct me if I'm wrong), which helps with Keeper/Watchdog, which hit you with fire/physical attacks.
If you're low on HP and desperately need a heal AND you're out of blood vials AND you don't have Blood Rapture memorized, don't forget about the little old Choir Bell (if you've got the Arcane requirement). Tested at 26 Arcane, and it was a complete heal for 7 QS in this dungeon (healed 528 HP). Worth noting that you can use blood bullets to reduce the cost to 2 real QS bullets, and the Choir Bell will still be a net heal. 4 net QS bullets is a full heal (blood bullets cost 182 HP in this dungeon, again at 35 Vitality with no Clockwise Metamorphosis memorized).
Good luck finding the time to use that in a boss fight, but it could help you push on where you'd otherwise have to Hunter's Mark out.
Also, Keeper can be stunlocked by Rakuyo just as well as BoM, and you can use Bolt Paper on those. If you're still struggling, try about 10 poison knives + Blacksky Eye. At 26 arcane, BSE was hitting for 230ish/hit. Kiting her is relatively easy, as she (for some reason) likes to spam Flame Fan (or Bloodborne's non-pyromancy equivalent) from halfway across the arena. Also tested Repeating Pistol + BMA at 42 Bloodtinge, and was hitting for 725ish per shot. I wouldn't use the Cannon on her, since she dodges.
Good luck everyone. I hope you get your platinum trophies.
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I'm trying to get the platinum and thank god I have 30 insight, 'couse I'm not doing this alone
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I love Bloodborne. I have put 100's of hours into Bloodborne. I have gotten all the achievements in the Bloodborne. So I can safely say that this is the worst thing in the game and should have never been added to it. It feels like they didn't even bother to test this before putting it in with all the cheap bull**** and fake difficulty. Really feels like the chalice dungeons were an excuse to add unfinished bosses and enemies to the game and to pad out the length for completationists
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The true nightmare in this defiled son-uva-motha is roly-poly man guarding the coffin between layer 2 and 3. He’s @ss-butted me in the face at least half a dozen times!
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My first, blind playthrough on a strength-ish build (it was all over the place really) through this chalice WAS.NOT.FUN.
Seriously considered dropping the game once I hit a brickwall with Amy. Finally scrambled through that fight by constantly baiting the jump attack and charging two-handed r2s with LHB and the axe.
Next time was on an arcane build and it was downright relaxing compared to the first time. The first boss proved the most difficult on this run; think I mainly spammed blacksky eye and used HML's heavy charged attack to keep her on the ground. I had 50+ arcane, which meant I could use all the hunter tools / spells.
Third time was using Simon's bowblade. Very simple, repetitive and easy.
If none of those are not an option for you, I heartily recommend one of the following weapons: the burial blade or the axe or the amygdala arm / beast cutter in their transformed states. They've all got good reach and can easily hit the heads of dog and amy.
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ok i played Lower Pthumeru Chalice and my final boss is a giant spider and i didn't get any chalice for killing final boss??
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"A chalice that breaks a labyrinth seal.defiled chalice.png". Now that's some juicy lore right. "defiled chalice.png" could suggest that Bloodborne is actually a simulation, and not real life. Was Yharnam never real? Did we really hunt beasts, or were they just pixels on a screen?
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I went all-in upgrading my cannon and bloodtinge just so that, in the chance that I got a defiled boss down to 1/5 of their health, 2 shots from the cannon just might finish them off or allow me to get in a hit or two. I ended up killing Watchdog this way and the rest was breezy.
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I love this dungeon. Mo, I'm not being facetious. I really do. The true Bloodborne starts here.
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I am going to curse and defile the ******* of whoever designed this dungeon
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Nothing says "We ran out of ideas" quite like a Dungeon with no new bosses whose only gimmick is tiny arenas and halved health. This term gets thrown around a lot but this is actual artificial difficulty.
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How the **** are you supposed to kill Amygdala by yourself? It one shots me all the ****ing time
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go grab the great lake 4% and both clockwise metamorphis in main game if you're over getting one shot
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This chalice alone made Bloodborne for being a 9.5/10 to a 9/10, seriously, **** Chalice Dungeons
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The naming is pretty accurate, I feel rather defiled every time I get two shot by common enemies.
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As a person who mostly goes in alone and is melee focused I might as well give up on that platinum trophy now
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This is the least amount of fun I think I’ve ever had playing a video game. I love Bloodborne, but this chalice is uncreative, untested garbage. It’s not often part of a game is so bad that I sit back and think, “what on earth were they thinking?”, but I’ve definitely done that a few times with these dungeons, especially this one. It took me an entire day to do this dungeon. Throughout the entire main story game, I died twice. I spent an entire. damn. day doing this dungeon. And when it was over, I didn’t feel relieved, I didn’t feel good, or proud of myself for beating the bosses. I was upset that I wasted an entire day slugging through a dungeon that is honestly a huge neglected mistake. I hate this dungeon. psn: umbraplatinum
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50 vigor, tier 3 great lake rune, tier 3 fading lake rune, tier 3 clockwise metamorphosis rune, charred hunter garb, gloves, and trousers, and yanamura hunter hat. Watch dog still one shots if the charge hits.
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Yes, yes, make it so the player has half their max health all the time, and place two hard hitting bosses in it. In all seriousness, chalices could've been so much better, shown especially by this. But lazy design like this, the grinding, potential lack of reward, and the repetitiveness makes chalices very boring, infuriating, and annoying, especially when you want to just get 100% completion and the platinum trophy.
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The only benefits I see to trudging through this dungeon is those sick ass gems
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Amygdala with a spit of health left on the bar, one hit to end the fight. -randomly jumps and one shots me. ***** this dungeon. I just want all the trophies
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God, this chalice dungeon is the epitome of lazy design and the wrong kind of challenge. And ***** whoever thought putting Amygdala here was a good idea.
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The defiled chalice in my version of the game can be found only in the the cursed and defiled chalice dungeon (cursed pthumerian defilement) after killing the watchdog (layer 2 boss)
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If your vitality is 50 and equip the charred hunter set with fire, all dmg reduction rune you can avoid being one shotted by the dog charged attack.
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Need help with Keeper? Jump attack with Ludwig's Holy Blade. Hardly got hit at all. keep your distance and take it a bit slow Hope this helps
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Couldn't ever stagger the flame sword girl (trap?) So I just dodged and counter attacked like Miyazaki intended us to. Praise the sun and git gud scrubs.
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I defeated the keeper of Old lords easily by using Augur of Ebrietas. You just use it to parry him opening him for Visceral attack however it id hard to visceral attack him just normal attack due to time window. (I visceral attack him by doing this once, most of the time just R1) Augur of Ebrietas-> R1-> R1->Repeat Just keep your distance and avoid his fire and you should be good. BTW I have 51 Arcane and Augur of Ebrietas deals 450-525 damage on him plus 500 damage for normal attack. You can do a total of 1500 damage per process
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i was scared first but in the end i did enjoy this dungeon. you learn how the bosses behave and not to be scared of them. also while having only half life, the few enemies that you encounter do a lot less damage.
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Don't make the same mistake I did and parry the Keeper in a corner. He teleported up into the ceiling and I couldn't finish the fight LOL.
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Wear best fire defense gear against the dog. Helps tremendously.
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"charging out recklessly could result in getting one-shotted" lmao, walking into the dungeon is now considered "reckless", that's game design for you
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Don't let Keeper flame his sword(shoot or hit him before it) and he'll be in a loop of fending you off and then trying to enchant it(which you can stop again). Makes him a piece of cake,
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If anyone else is still doing this, I am experiencing what I assume to be a bug but am not sure. I have summoned both Olek and The Queen Killer at different times and neither one are able to damage the Watchdog of the Lords. Like they hit it, even can stun or put it into visceral position. But the health bar does not register the damage done by them only me. Is that supposed to happen?
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Don't even try to solo this chalice. You're gonna die. A lot. Get help. Trust me.
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Permanently lowers players hit points by 50% while inside the dungeon, this is the sign of a*****ty dev..... a cheap shortcut for difficulty that is more annoying than difficult
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If anyone is struggling with Keeper of the Old Lords, I found out that Executioners' Gloves on arcane build and baiting Conflagration-like attack, then dashing to the side and attack is very effective. Sometimes he also approaches you slowly- with a fast weapon you can stunlock him for a while and deal surprising amount of damage.
would love help finishing up the chalice trophy to platinum my last soulsbourne game, SamuraiAkuzaMan is the tag, main char hasnt done dlc and is in new game+, my more heavy hitting char is on the rom chalice before this, i work 3rd shift and typically can only play 10pm to 10am est on friday and saturday, however, im always up for starting anew on either bloodbourne or any souls on ps4 for fun. hit me up if your willing to help me get my final platinum and let me know youre from here or i'll likely ignore it.
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Whoever is the retarded that designed this dungeon, I hope they got fired and never be employed again. What a *****ing way to ruin a game. "I can't make a genuine difficult level so I will just cut the player's HP by half and make all the bosses une-shot them" ***** this dungeon is pure bullshit
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i hate this damage. taking away half our health and keeping elemental damage the same is like paralyzing me, putting me in a wheelchair, and telling me, “just get up these stairs! we only blocked off the small ramped section, the rest is all yours to climb!”
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I am still playing BB.. psn Sasafunee.. Im quite new to Chalice
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Anyone still going through the chalice dungeons that can help me out
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I need help with the watchdog if anyone is able; my psn is: Jbidet5.
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Help I didn't get the defiled chalice from the bloodletting beast. Psn=Breadstick758
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Nerd help at watchdog and amygdala afterwards. My psn is AchMett8
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I really need help. My psn is GiacomoCecar2003 and my glyph is wma2
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i dont get hown to apply this "glyph" so i have higher chance of co-op. pls help me
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Hey, I've got trouble with the first layer boss of defiled chalice if anyone's willing to help, I'm using the fextra glyph and my psn is arcticsolider42
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I've killed Bloodletting beast twice now and i can't get the Defiled Chalice drop, what do i do?
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I've killed Bloodletting beast twice now and i can't get the Defiled Chalice drop, what do i do?
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Can anyone help me in multiplayer on the watchdog I haven’t gotten his health down to half on any of my attempts
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I had a lag and dropped cursed and defiled root chalise from layer 4 lower ptumeru chalise
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Man, Amygdala sure isn't fucking around this time. Anyone wanna help a boi out? PSN is Squidfest
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I need help with the War Dog of the Old Lords if anybody is willing to help? my PSN is Simmonds R
I'm level 186 and I can't reach the last 30% Amygdala's life bar. (I'm summoning 2 NPC hunters). Does anyone want to coop? (i'm looking for the Pthumerian Queen Trophy)
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Amygdala is pushing my shit in big time, anybody help me out?
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Can anybody help me out with beating the Amygdala? I’m getting it down to 1/4 life left, but that last phase is kicking my ass.
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Need some help on the defiled watchdog and probably the Amygdala after, anyone else still playing on the fextra glyph?
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Does the glyph really matter for co-op? because Me and my friend can't seem to co-op ...
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Need some advice for Keeper of the Old Lords. I'm bl76 30VIT/30STR/25SK and my Arcane is slightly below the level to get beast roar. I'm getting him consistently down to 3/4 health with use of the loch shield in phase 2 but can't seem to finish him off before out of blood vials.
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Anyone wanna help with Defiled Watchdog? I'm using the fextralife glyph and my PSN is Gilamobster23
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Anyone wanna help with Defiled Watchdog? PSN - Gilamobster23
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For cursed gems I find the two frenzy enemies just before Orphan of Kos to be easiest, just go down the elevator and kill them and hunters mark back.
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Don't know if it's a bug or a feature of the ''defiled experience'', but, for example, when I leave an unfinished layer (meaning I haven't beaten the boss) to return to the hunter's dream to resupply it erases all the progress I made in the area. Bringing me back to the previous layer's boss even though I've lit lamps, unlocked doors and stuff. Quite frustrating since it's already a hard level. Anybody else have had this issue occure to them?
P.S. I'm in ng+ 3 or 4.
I'm on lvl 283 and desperate for some help. PSN Kratz17. Using the Fextra Defiled Glyph: b4bi2s3n
Somebody please save me from this chalice
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