Beasthunter Saif

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Imprints (Normal)

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Imprints (Uncanny)

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Imprints (Lost)

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Damage
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-- -- 100 100 200
Requirements & Scaling
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E
11
D
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Beasthunter Saif is a Trick Weapon in Bloodborne. It was added with The Old Hunters expansion. There are 3 versions of this weapon: Normal, Uncanny and Lost. The only known differences being the Gem Imprints and the locations in which they are found.

 

Beasthunter Saif Description

"A trick weapon used by the old hunters.
A second blade is found inside the curve of the main one. In its initial form, the saif can be wielded like a long curved sword, but when transformed, its blade is contracted, allowing for quick, repeated stabs.
Although this trick weapon allows for adaptive combat, it was later replaced by saws and similar weapons that were more effective at disposing of beasts."

 

Beasthunter Saif Information

  • Transforms from a curved long sword to a short weapon like the Saw Cleaver
  • Its default state is the extended form, unlike the Saw Cleaver and Saw Spear.

 

 

Location

Normal

  • The Hunter's Nightmare. After the Blood River, when you pass through the cave with a tick, where you encounter two dogs and a large amount of crows along with an enemy Beast Cutter hunter. Climb the ladder on the left of the pit and instead of going forward, turn to the left and drop down the ledge. There will be a single piece of loot guarded by a Saif Hunter.

Uncanny Beasthunter Saif

  • If you have the normal version: Create Glyph 8i29rqz3 (Pthumeru Labyrinth) and buy from Bath Messengers up a ladder from the main room for 16,000 Blood Echoes.

Lost Beasthunter Saif

  • If you have the normal version: Create Glyph 8i29rqz3 (Pthumeru Labyrinth) and buy from Bath Messengers up a ladder from the main room for 16,000 Blood Echoes.

 

 

Player Notes

  • Its shortened form has a quick lunging attack as its first R1, making it useful for PvP or agility-focused builds, or closing in after dodging boss attacks. The transformed dash R1 and regular R2 also has a slightly longer step forward compared to other weapons. This allows  for successive, aggressive gap-closing attacks. The lunge does not reset when the combo is finished, however, so repeated R1 attacks won't move you forward every fourth swing.
  • Transforming from the curved sword form to the shortened version will perform a quick gap-closing lunge attack.
  • Transforming from the shortened to the curved sword, however, will perform a quick backstepping slash, useful for disengaging.
  • Unlike the Saw Cleaver and Saw Spear, the Saif actually flips directions when transforming. In both modes, the same blade on the outer edge is used to attack, while the Saw weapons use different blades for different modes. The few times the inner edge is used is in the untransformed dash R1, the initial transformation attack, and the untransformed, uncharged R2 attack.
  • Though the tricked form fights a lot like the Saw weapons, it is not serrated and therefore does no extra damage to beasts and has a thrust attack on R2.
  • Its transformation is flipped compared to the other Saw weapons, as its extended form is the default.

 

Stats/Scaling

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+0

90 - - - - - - 100 100 E D - D -

+1

99 - - - - - - 100 100 E D - D -

+2

108 - - - - - - 100 100 E D - D -

+3

117 - - - - - - 100 100 E D - D -

+4

126 - - - - - - 100 100 E C - D -

+5

135 - - - - - - 100 100 E C - D -

+6

144 - - - - - - 100 100 E C - D -

+7

153 - - - - - - 100 100 E C - D -

+8

162 - - - - - - 100 100 E C - D -

+9

171 - - - - - - 100 100 D B - C -

+10

180 - - - - - - 100 100 D B - C -

 

 

Movesets & Videos

Regular Moveset
Move Damage Type & Modifier Stamina Effect
R1 Combo 1.00x, 1.02x, 1.04x, 1.05x ?? Slow, overhead swipes with wide arcs, with altering directions after the 2nd swipe.
Quickstep R1 .91x ?? ~ ?? A diagonal sweep from the bottom right to top left.
Dash R1 1.09x ?? (+run) Uses the inner blade to deliver a diagonal swipe from top right to bottom left. Somewhat short and narrow range.
R2 Attack 1.32x ?? A wide, horizontal swipe from right to left.
Charged 1.63x ?? The character does a clockwise 360 turn and delivers an overhead smash to the ground, downing most enemies while delivering blunt damage. (to confirm)
Backstep R2 1.18x    
Dodge .91x ??  
Dash 1.36x ??  
Leap 1.36x ?? (+run)  
Transform Attack 1.045x ?? (+x) The character takes a large step forward while performing a sweeping attack from right to left with the Saif swinging shut.
Transformed Moveset
Move Damage Type & Modifier Stamina Effect
R1 Combo .85x, .89x, .91x, .91x ?? An upwards lunge attack from right to left, followed by swipes from altering directions similar to the untransformed Saw Cleaver and Saw Spear. Slightly slower than the saw weapons, but still fast when compared to other weapons. There is a slight delay before the first lunge that becomes noticeable when hit-trading.
Quickstep R1 .91x ?? ~ ?? An upwards lunge attack similar to the initial transformed R1, but with a shorter lunge.
Backstep R1 .91x    
Dash R1 1.00x ?? (+run) The character moves forward with quick, large steps and attacks with a right to left swipe.
R2 Attack 1.18x ?? Attacks with a forward thrust with the tip of the Saif, with a forward lunge.
Backstep R2 1.13x    
Charged R2 1.45x ?? Slams the Saif to the ground, knocking most enemies down and causing blunt (to confirm) damage.
Dodge R2 ?? ??  
Dash R2 1.27x ?? (+run)  
Leap 1.27x ??  
Transform Attack 1.00x ?? (+x) Transforms the Saif back to the untransformed mode by sweeping the weapon from left to right, while the character dodges backward. 

Trivia

  • The word "saif" is Arabic for "sword."

Gallery

   

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    • Anonymous

      21 Feb 2020 13:41  

      Also the word "Saif" can be used as name, so it's unclear if From used the word as alternative term for a sword, or the named after a Hunter called "Saif", or maybe because it's curved sword?

      • Anonymous

        08 Feb 2020 18:23  

        At 50 strength 50 skill with an abyssal gem, all clawmark runes and a beast pellet for good measure this thing is monstrous. Vitality and Endurance? No need. If you can't visceral them to oblivion you sure can pummel them into it!

        • Anonymous

          12 Jan 2020 08:35  

          With the C scaling in arc with upgrades, would it be worth switching to elemental? The moveset is very good and I'd like to use it without dex investment on my arcane build

          • Anonymous

            15 Oct 2019 14:35  

            This is not only my favorite weapon in Bloodborne, it is one of my favorites in games, period. Both modes are phenomenal and this is the only trick weapon i feel is actually well suited to ANY Bloodborne fight. No serration, no problem. The stunlocking potential of the sweeping R1 alone is proof this weapon is tops but then you add in the great dashing and gap closing attacks of the transformed mode and you cannot be beat.

            • Anonymous

              05 Aug 2019 21:51  

              Hands down, the best and most underated weapon of the entire game. Once you've used it, you'd never go back. Great for both PvE and PvP, can crowd control or duel easily, can stunlock, fast, decent damage, close in attacks so hard to miss, it's the weapon to end all conflict.

              • Anonymous

                01 Jul 2019 22:14  

                I absolutely adore this weapon. I was doing my first playthrough with BoM and an Uncanny Burial Blade but ended up switching to this beast as soon as I tried the moveset. The step from R1 lets you avoid a surprising amount of projectiles, and the tricked L1 is a fantastic crowd controller with a huge sweep and a backstep to safety. 100% worth getting asap if you're doing a skill build.

                • Anonymous

                  29 Jun 2019 21:54  

                  I haven’t seen anybody talk about this, the Saif’s fully charged R2 in short mode is bugged and does not naturally chain into a transformation attack if you tap L1 right after but instead simply extends the weapon like a normal transformation. Despite this odd glitch if you delay the L1 after the charged R2 (it has to be frame perfect, right before the moment your character can move again) you can do the transformation attack. I thought it was a developer choice similar to the beast claw until I pulled off the frame perfect attack.

                  • 08 Jan 2019 01:20  

                    Don't underestimate the transformed R1. It has forward momentum to bring you toward the enemy. Very nice for closing the distance and getting an attack off. Also the transform attack from closed to open is a backstep, good for retreating and gaining some breathing room

                    • Anonymous

                      03 Dec 2018 04:04  

                      Has anyone noticed that the the lunge of the transformed R1 will put the whole body below the standing lock-on position? I've dodged some bullets using this move during PvE.

                      • Anonymous

                        08 Oct 2018 21:25  

                        I keep trying out other weapons but nothing can beat the amazingness of this one. Perfect for making books fly everywhere

                        • Anonymous

                          29 Aug 2018 00:26  

                          In the item description it says "the saif can be wielded like a long curved sword" Saif means sword, so the item description [actually] says "the sword can be wielded like a long curved sword". ..What?

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