Beasthunter Saif

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Imprints (Normal)

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Imprints (Uncanny)

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Imprints (Lost)

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Damage
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90 -- -- -- --
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-- -- 100 100 200
Requirements & Scaling
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E
11
D
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Beasthunter Saif is a Trick Weapon in Bloodborne. It was added with The Old Hunters expansion. There are 3 versions of this weapon: Normal, Uncanny and Lost. The only known differences being the Gem Imprints and the locations in which they are found.

 

Beasthunter Saif Description

"A trick weapon used by the old hunters.
A second blade is found inside the curve of the main one. In its initial form, the saif can be wielded like a long curved sword, but when transformed, its blade is contracted, allowing for quick, repeated stabs.
Although this trick weapon allows for adaptive combat, it was later replaced by saws and similar weapons that were more effective at disposing of beasts."

 

Beasthunter Saif Information

  • Transforms from a curved long sword to a short weapon like the Saw Cleaver
  • Its default state is the extended form, unlike the Saw Cleaver and Saw Spear.

 

 

Location

Normal

  • The Hunter's Nightmare. After the Blood River, when you pass through the cave with a tick, where you encounter two dogs and a large amount of crows along with an enemy Beast Cutter hunter. Climb the ladder on the left of the pit and instead of going forward, turn to the left and drop down the ledge. There will be a single piece of loot guarded by a Saif Hunter.

Uncanny Beasthunter Saif

  • If you have the normal version: Create Glyph 8i29rqz3 (Pthumeru Labyrinth) and buy from Bath Messengers up a ladder from the main room for 16,000 Blood Echoes.

Lost Beasthunter Saif

  • If you have the normal version: Create Glyph 8i29rqz3 (Pthumeru Labyrinth) and buy from Bath Messengers up a ladder from the main room for 16,000 Blood Echoes.

 

 

Player Notes

  • Its shortened form has a quick lunging attack as its first R1, making it useful for PvP or agility-focused builds, or closing in after dodging boss attacks. The transformed dash R1 and regular R2 also has a slightly longer step forward compared to other weapons. This allows for successive, aggressive gap-closing attacks. The lunge does not reset when the combo is finished, however, so repeated R1 attacks won't move you forward every fourth swing.
  • Transforming from the curved sword form to the shortened version will perform a quick gap-closing lunge attack.
  • Transforming from the shortened to the curved sword, however, will perform a quick backstepping slash, useful for disengaging.
  • Unlike the Saw Cleaver and Saw Spear, the Saif actually flips directions when transforming. In both modes, the same blade on the outer edge is used to attack, while the Saw weapons use different blades for different modes. The few times the inner edge is used is in the untransformed dash R1, the initial transformation attack, and the untransformed, uncharged R2 attack.
  • Though the tricked form fights a lot like the Saw weapons, it is not serrated and therefore does no extra damage to beasts and has a thrust attack on R2.
  • Its transformation is flipped compared to the other Saw weapons, as its extended form is the default.

 

Stats/Scaling

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+0

90 - - - - - - 100 100 E D - D -

+1

99 - - - - - - 100 100 E D - D -

+2

108 - - - - - - 100 100 E D - D -

+3

117 - - - - - - 100 100 E D - D -

+4

126 - - - - - - 100 100 E C - D -

+5

135 - - - - - - 100 100 E C - D -

+6

144 - - - - - - 100 100 E C - D -

+7

153 - - - - - - 100 100 E C - D -

+8

162 - - - - - - 100 100 E C - D -

+9

171 - - - - - - 100 100 D B - C -

+10

180 - - - - - - 100 100 D B - C -

 

 

Movesets & Videos

Regular Moveset
Move Damage Type & Modifier Stamina Effect
R1 Combo 1.00x, 1.02x, 1.04x, 1.05x ?? Slow, overhead swipes with wide arcs, with altering directions after the 2nd swipe.
Quickstep R1 .91x ?? ~ ?? A diagonal sweep from the bottom right to top left.
Dash R1 1.09x ?? (+run) Uses the inner blade to deliver a diagonal swipe from top right to bottom left. Somewhat short and narrow range.
R2 Attack 1.32x ?? A wide, horizontal swipe from right to left.
Charged 1.63x ?? The character does a clockwise 360 turn and delivers an overhead smash to the ground, downing most enemies while delivering blunt damage. (to confirm)
Backstep R2 1.18x    
Dodge .91x ??  
Dash 1.36x ??  
Leap 1.36x ?? (+run)  
Transform Attack 1.045x ?? (+x) The character takes a large step forward while performing a sweeping attack from right to left with the Saif swinging shut.
Transformed Moveset
Move Damage Type & Modifier Stamina Effect
R1 Combo .85x, .89x, .91x, .91x ?? An upwards lunge attack from right to left, followed by swipes from altering directions similar to the untransformed Saw Cleaver and Saw Spear. Slightly slower than the saw weapons, but still fast when compared to other weapons. There is a slight delay before the first lunge that becomes noticeable when hit-trading.
Quickstep R1 .91x ?? ~ ?? An upwards lunge attack similar to the initial transformed R1, but with a shorter lunge.
Backstep R1 .91x    
Dash R1 1.00x ?? (+run) The character moves forward with quick, large steps and attacks with a right to left swipe.
R2 Attack 1.18x ?? Attacks with a forward thrust with the tip of the Saif, with a forward lunge.
Backstep R2 1.13x    
Charged R2 1.45x ?? Slams the Saif to the ground, knocking most enemies down and causing blunt (to confirm) damage.
Dodge R2 ?? ??  
Dash R2 1.27x ?? (+run)  
Leap 1.27x ??  
Transform Attack 1.00x ?? (+x) Transforms the Saif back to the untransformed mode by sweeping the weapon from left to right, while the character dodges backward. 

Trivia

  • The word "saif" is Arabic for "sword."

Gallery

 

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    • Anonymous

      14 Feb 2021 11:04  

      I think it’s possible to buy from the bath messengers after obtaining the saw hunter badge, have to check this though

      • Anonymous

        03 Feb 2021 22:52  

        You thought this was a skill weapon? Cursed heavy abyssal gems exist, and render this (along with other skill weapons like the rakuyo and church pick) into a quality or even pure strength tool.

        Not to mention the fact that this thing can give some pathetic Holy Blade users a really nasty wake-up call. 9/10, only flaw is the fact that the term "saif" isn't very clear.

        • Anonymous

          20 Jan 2021 10:43  

          PSA for my fellow none ps plus members:
          The alternate versions of this weapon can be found on the 3rd layer of either the lower hinterlands tomb or the Isz chalice. Assuming one has the normal version to begin with, naturally.

          • Anonymous

            14 Jan 2021 05:45  

            Wait, slower?? After the first swing, it's faster than the cleaver or spear! I've tested this baby against fast enemies along with the saws, and it hits much faster.

            • Anonymous

              16 Nov 2020 21:34  

              It’s like a little sickle.
              Slice, slice, SLASH.
              Used in good hands, this thing can be fantastic.
              Not my type, but I have to give it all the good credit.
              Love this thing.
              8/10.

              • Anonymous

                06 Nov 2020 15:27  

                As English isn't my first language I'd still consider my vocabulary acceptable, or so I thought. Srsly, what the hell is a saif? starting to think it's dev-slang for a scythe as it's a pain in the ass to spell.

                • Anonymous

                  28 Oct 2020 04:31  

                  My favorite weapon hands down. When I was goofing around with weapons I stuck with this thing and never looked back. I had no "Favorite weapon" by that time but when I started a new playthrough a couple weeks ago, I immediately went to the DLC to get this thing. But damn is it worth it. Getting the moveset done and the sweet transformation attacks is just *Chefs Kiss*. What I absolutely love is that the stagger potential on the Normal Form is insane. Pigs, Winter Lanterns, Snatchers... No one stood a chance. (Yes I just said I beat Winter Lanterns with this thing without the parry I-frames) Its faster and farming the two in the Hamlet is so easy with this. Anyway, this weapon is an Allrounder. You can close gaps in an instant when in Transformed and if you have to retreat just us L1 to transform back to the Curved Sword Form. Also this things Normal Form is no joke. I had many times where I just used the L1 on transformed to get back into Regular sword and this thing Rollcatched my enemies so many times it was just amazing. (I'm speaking about NPC tho, mainly Boneash Hunters in Chalices, so I have no idea if it's the same in PVP) OH yeah, one thing. The dash attack on the Saif transformed is brutal! It is so fast and closes such a long distance you can attack mobs before they even notice you. My pick for favorite weapon in the game. (With Beast Cutter and Reiterpallasch) What do you think? And what are yours?

                  • Anonymous

                    17 Oct 2020 01:10  

                    Transformed r1 once or twice ->transformation attack -> transformation attack again. Mobile combo, badabinghammer badaboomhammer.

                    • 08 Oct 2020 07:40  

                      The multipliers on this weapon are a low making it a great bolt weapon on Arcane Builds because Bolt Abyssal gems have high flat damage (which isn't effected by the multipliers.) A marginal difference, but something to consider.

                      • Anonymous

                        07 Oct 2020 00:22  

                        Alright, I’ve waited years to make my ultimate decision on which weapon is my favourite and it is indeed ... the Beasthunter Saif.

                        • Anonymous

                          31 Aug 2020 21:00  

                          How to fight against this thing: stay calm. Attempt to parry. If you miss the parry, get your affairs in order and write your testament because you are essentially dead. The combos and damage potential on this thing are phenomenal. If you aren't using one yourself, why?

                          • Anonymous

                            21 Feb 2020 13:41  

                            Also the word "Saif" can be used as name, so it's unclear if From used the word as alternative term for a sword, or the named after a Hunter called "Saif", or maybe because it's curved sword?

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