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Weapon Moveset Damage Comparison for Bloodborne Trick Weapons. This page was created with data and visualization provided by Xarius478 - make sure to thank him profusely for his great work! [1]
  • All tests were run with weapons at +10, three 27.2% physical attack gems, all offensive stats at 50, and on NG+9 against the villagers in Central Yharnam.
  • These tables are sortable - click on the header to sort!

Normal/1H mode:
Attack
saw_cleaver.png
saw_spear.png
hunter_axe.png
threaded_cane.png
burial_blade.png
blade_of_mercy.png
kirkhammer.png
ludwigs_holy_blade.png
reiterpallasch.png
chikage.png
rifle_spear.png
stake_driver.png
tonitrus.png
logarius_wheel.png
beast_claw.png
R1
589, 604, 618, 632, 653
593, 607, 621, 636, 657
652, 652, 727, 802
548, 562, 575
552, 566, 588, 588, 588
403, 413, 425
536, 546, 555, 574, 593
584, 594, 604, 624, 644
524, 560, 536, 571
572, 572, 606, 641, 641
516, 550, 583, 617
596, 610, 625, 646, 668
516, 530, 544, 558, 573
719, 719, 719
457, 469, 480, 492, 503
Backstep R1
562
557
614
582
588
691
508
553
493
572
483
560
482
549
429
Rolling R1
554
557
614
582
661
691
508
553
493
606
449
560
449
549
429
Frontstep R1
554
557
614
582
661
691
508
553
493
606
449
560
449
549
429
Sidestep R1
589
593
614
582
621
691
508
553
493
641
449
560
449
592
429
Dash R1
653
657
728
682
698
633
630
684
590
641
449
663
551
761
457
R2
730
734
906
777
713
546
812
873
687
756
781
838
657
842
602
Charged R2
1170
1176
1342
1104
1038
974
978
1048
1066
1112
1135
1182
1122
1196
903
Backstep R2
660
664
872
679
753
863
677
733
622
743
680
772
658
761
569
Dash R2
764
769
973
841
784
863
768
828
654
689
650
852
623
843
602
Leaping R2
863
867
940
810
840
691
978
1048
840
871
931
933
865
960
745
L1
798
802
726
732
974
517
855
917
313
853
490
668
831
662



Transformed/2H mode:
Attack
saw_cleaver.png
saw_spear.png
hunter_axe.png
threaded_cane.png
burial_blade.png
blade_of_mercy.png
kirkhammer.png
ludwigs_holy_blade.png
reiterpallasch.png
chikage.png
rifle_spear.png
stake_driver.png
tonitrus.png
R1
567, 589, 604
650, 654, 650, 664
691, 766, 691, 766, 802
554, 576, 591
624, 624, 639, 661
350, 350, 350, 546, 459, 471, 505, 505
812, 812
873, 873, 926
366, 461, 493
601, 623, 638, 654, 691
516, 550, 583, 617
575, 596, 610, 625
671, 687, 703, 722, 741
Backstep R1
554
525
652
591
661
633
307
433
493
654
483
560
630
Rolling R1
554
650
383
519
698
633
677
781
493
638
483
560
589
Frontstep R1
554
650
383
519
698
633
677
781
493
638
483
560
589
Sidestep R1
589
650
737
519
698
633
677
781
493
669
483
596
589
Dash R1
695
507
766
662
749
633
396
882
622
765
479
668
711
R2
764, 778
822
918
766, 766
874
691, 749
1019
1092
313
988
843
839
831
Charged R2
1048, 778
1071, 948
1007 + 872

1170

1875, 1141
1922, 1363

1483, 1265
1426
2209
1378
Backstep R2
668
720
874
732
875
807
812
926

849
781
927
831
Dash R2
730
720
1007
799
909
807
855
996

755
781
772
791
Leaping R2
798
821
973
799
875
691
978
1048
780
969
931
933
1072
L1
798
760
802
732
624
575
855
1101
590
601
749
596
831
L2


837, 838, 906

840, 735, 909, 909
691
937, 855, 1182
1005, 1005, 1031, 987

756, 836
525




Transformed/2H Logarius' Wheel:
Attack
0 Revs
1 Rev
2 Revs
3 Revs
4 Revs
R1
694, 694, 820
721, 721, 853
748, 748, 886
806, 806, 952
865, 865, 1105
Backstep R1
678
703
732
791
854
Rolling R1
678
703
732
791
854
Frontstep R1
678
703
732
791
854
Sidestep R1
678
703
732
791
854
Dash R1
678
703
732
791
854
R2
878
913
944
1026
1104
Backstep R2
856
890
927
1002
1083
Dash R2
761
791
821
884
949
Leaping R2
974
1013
1052
1133
1214
L1
228
228
228
228
228


Transformed/2H Beast Claw:
Attack
No Beasthood
Low Beasthood
R1
400, 457
568, 587
Backstep R1
400
503
Rolling R1
400
503
Frontstep R1
400
503
Sidestep R1
486
608
Dash R1
400
503
R2
660
810
Charged R2
953
1144
Backstep R2
544
677
Dash R2
515
642
Leaping R2
688
842
L1
602
745
L2
569
711


Firearms:
Range
hunter_pistol.png
hunter_blunderbuss.png
repeating_pistol.png
ludwigs_rifle.png
evelyn.png
cannon.png
flamesprayer.png
rosmarinus.png
hunters_torch.png
Point blank
264
540
340
450
295
1424
190
208
176
Long
202
72
277
30
223
712
92
104




Using these numbers, I created a rough tier list of the damage output of the weapons. Note that this does not take attack speed or attack trajectory into account, and is primarily based on R1s.

These tiers are just meant to give an idea of how the raw damage compares, not to rate the weapons based on usefulness or DPS.
One-handed:
  • Top Tier: Logarius' Wheel, Transformed Tonitrus, Hunter Axe, Transformed Saw Spear
  • High Tier: Stake Driver, Transformed Stake Driver, Saw Cleaver, Saw Spear, Ludwig's Holy Blade, Chikage, Transformed Saw Cleaver
  • Middle Tier: Threaded Cane, Transformed Threaded Cane, Burial Blade, Kirkhammer, Rifle Spear
  • Low Tier: Reiterpallasch, Tonitrus
  • Bottom Tier: Blade of Mercy, Beast Claw, Transformed Reiterpallasch

Two-handed:
  • Top Tier: Ludwig's Holy Blade, Fully revved Logarius' Wheel, Kirkhammer
  • High Tier: Hunter Axe, Unrevved Logarius' Wheel
  • Middle Tier: Chikage, Burial Blade
  • Low Tier: Rifle Spear, Beasthood Beast Claw
  • Bottom Tier: No Beasthood Beast Claw, Blade of Mercy

Stray observations:
  • The third and fourth revs for the Logarius' Wheel seem to add a larger damage bonus than the first two. In addition, the weapon hits multiple times for some of its attacks. The damage listed is for all the hits combined.
  • The Beast Claw's 2H form is very reliant on having Beasthood; its damage is quite poor otherwise
    .
Disclaimer: As these tests are done with all offensive stats at 50, this might inflate the damage of quality weapons a bit in comparison to a typical level-capped PvP build.
In particular, Chikage's 2H form only requires 50 Bloodtinge to reach these numbers, but its 1H form requires 50 Strength and 50 Skill to reach the numbers listed here.
In addition, not every weapon's optimal gem configuration is three physical gems. For example, the transformed Tonitrus achieves higher numbers with three Nourishing gems, and the 2H Chikage achieves higher numbers with Bloodtinge gems.


  1. ^ Reddit Thread Here Republished with permission



    • Transformed Reiter05 Jul 2016 08:35

      Just so everyone knows, the first hit of the short form of Reiterpallasch has a damage nerf, which the following hits don't. In other words, every time you start attacking with it, your first hit will do notably less damage than your second, third, et cetera.

      • 1.0405 Jul 2016 08:35

        So since 1.04 supposedly changed a lot of the weapon and tool stats how useful are these tables now? Like are they still mostly good or have the changes been drastic enough that we should just ignore them?

        • Fave Weapon05 Jul 2016 08:35

          This will cause much debate in the comments section but I am wondering what people favored weapon is for mine is the Chikage for it is fast and does high damage. I also like the rifle spear in the earlier game (before I get the Chikage). <br/>So just wondering what is your favored weapon.

          • Kirkhammer05 Jul 2016 08:35

            The Kirkhammer (while one of the coolest weapons imo) is outclassed by the LHB in almost every way. Might be a bit more useful considering the testing was done with both 50 STR and SKL which gives the LHB an advantage but still. Makes me sad :[

            • Evelyn? Nerfed??05 Jul 2016 08:35

              I thought it was said to be the best scaling/damaging blood tinge gun... Why is it so low on the gun list then? I understand the cannon being higher but other guns scale off blood tinge... The other 3/4 guns do more damage than it apparently.. Huh O.o

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