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"Certain Church hunters obfuscate their identities and slip into the nooks and crannies of the city. These hunters are keen to early signs of the scourge, serving as a first line of defense against its outbreak. Or perhaps, when the time is ripe, they find signs of the scourge where there are none. It just goes to show, the corner beggar is not always who he seems."
Transformed Man or The Suspicious Beggar is an NPC in Bloodborne. He can be sent to Iosefka's Clinic or Oedon Chapel.
The Suspicious Beggar is first discovered, breathless, standing above several mauled bodies and eating one of them. He asks the Hunter if they were responsible for killing the Snake Parasite below the balcony, then thanks them and asks if they know of any safe places. He'll give you two Pungent Blood Cocktails upon answering with a yes. The Suspicious Beggar is actually a massive Abhorrent Beast in disguise, and when attacked, he will transform into his true form.
Location
The Suspicious Beggar can be found in the Forbidden Woods. After making your way through the first part of the Forbidden Woods or riding down the shortcut elevator in the building by the lamp, drop down on the path ahead and turn left, then enter the building across the small bridge and go up the ramp to the right. Go out the window, follow the path up the ladder to the left, traverse the gears above where you can find the Cannon, and the Beggar will be out on the rooftop eating a corpse.
If told about Oedon Chapel, the Suspicious Beggar will move just outside Oedon Chapel near the door across from the lantern, by a cart.
Note: If you wait for the red moon to appear before meeting him, he will disappear for the rest of the playthrough.
Destination
- If sent to the Oedon Chapel:
- He will slowly murder each of the NPCs that the Hunter sends there, although if you talk to him afterward, he'll give you Beast Blood Pellets.
- On arrival, he will kill the first NPC. Afterwards, for every boss you defeat (Chalice bosses included), he will kill another NPC. With each NPC he kills, he will reward you with Beast Blood Pellets when spoken to. The NPCs killed will also drop the items they would have dropped if you had killed them yourself. After killing the last NPC, and talking to him to receive your rewards/gifts, he will vanish when you reload the area. (have not been able to find him after he left). Aggroing him will not change the system by which he kills the survivors.
- He will take out the NPCs in this order: (needs confirmation)
- Skeptical Man. Talk to him after and he'll give you 3 Beast Blood Pellets.
- Lonely Old Woman. Talk to him after and he'll give you 2 Pellets.
- Adella the Nun. Talk to him after and he'll give you 2 Pellets.
- Oedon Chapel Dweller. Talk to him after and he'll give you 3 Pellets.
- Arianna. Talk to him after and he'll give you 2 Pellets.
- If sent to Iosefka's Clinic:
- When the player gains entry to the clinic they will find a passive Celestial Mob, hunched over in a corner by a bench, which will drop the beast rune when killed.
- If you withold information:
- No effect.
Drops
Dialogues
Forbidden Woods Encounter:
"Blimey! Don't scare me like that. On a night like this... I took you for a monster."
"Oh, thank the stars, you're fairly normal... Was it you put down that awful beast?"
"Oh, that thing had me be trembling, frozen in me boots. And then you came along."
"Well... if you're a hunter... then..."
"Would you know of any safe havens?"
If sent to Oedon Chapel or Iosefka's Clinic:
"Well... I will be! Thank you!"
"It's about time I made a move. I can't very well stay out on me own..."
"Oh you've given me hope... Terribly kind of you."
"Take this. It's all I can offer as thanks." (gives Pungent Blood Cocktail)
"Thank you. It's about time I made a move."
"I can't very well stay out on me own...""
If withheld locations:
"Oh yeah, of course not... I should've known."
"This whole place's falling apart, once again..."
"It's the curse of Yharnam..."
Oedon Chapel Encounter:
"Ah, hello again."
"I owe this to you. It's a wonderful place."
"They even let beggars like myself in!"
"What's better, we keep our distance, don't step on anyone's toes, right?"
"The way proper Yharnamites ought to live!"
"Oh, let me share something with you."
"My secret stash. Really prime stuff..."
"Ah, hello again."
"I really do owe you a terrible lot."
"Finding me such a nice place to live."
"This is a smashing place."
"it's everything Yharnam ever had, and more!"
After the transformation:
"Oh, you are a sick puppy! You drink the blood of half the town, and now this! And you talk of beasts? You hunters are the real killers!"
"Have you got a screw loose? Or is it your... animal intuition"
"You hunters have got more blood on your hands."
"Die! Die, die! Hunters are killers, nothing less! You call ME a beast? A Beast!? What would you know? I didn't ask for this!"
"Rancid beasts, every last one of us..."
Strategies
- Fight him in the Forbidden Woods. Attack him a few times and he will transform, health replenished.
- It is advised to fight him on the balcony as the player can exploit the small doorway connecting it to the building and attack with impunity. Just watch out for his attack that causes the ground to throw you up against the ceiling.
- When transformed, he is extremely weak to poison. Three Poison Knives will poison him and remove about a third of his health. You can find some right next to him near the balcony edge. Once he transforms retreat to the doorway and throw a knife, wait for the poison to wear off and throw another, just make sure to retreat back to stay out of range of his ground pound attack.
- Alternatively, you can roll off the balcony, which should make him stand on the edge. He should be within shooting or throwing distance, but be unable to attack.
- If the Suspicious Beggar is outside of Oedon Chapel, you can attack him until he transforms. Like other enemies, he will not be able to enter the cathedral. You can safely attack him from inside, preferably with ranged attacks. Killing him successfully, he will drop the Beast Rune. Alternatively, use Shaman Bone Blade onto the Kidnapper and bait him to attack the Beggar.
- He will be transformed into one of the Celestial Beings and drop the beast rune. Note, you will not get the large number of echoes from killing him this way like you can with the other two ways.
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Trivia
- His dialogues suggest that beasts are sentient beings. Despite his murderous nature, he considers the hunters as more bloodthirsty and merciless than the beasts, while the beasts preying on the others for daily need and hunger are far more normal than those who hunt beasts just because they're beasts.
- The Harrowed Hood suggested the Begger was once a Church Hunter who obfuscated his identity and served as the first line of defense against the Beast Outbreak, he instead became a sentient beast himself. It could also be the side effect of the Beast's Embrace rune.
- It is also a known fact the beasts were once humans, as suggested by Djura.
- His act of murdering other NPCs is similar to the behavior of Yurt the Silent Chief from Demon's Souls.
- He wears the Madman Leggings and Harrowed Hood. As of The Old Hunters DLC it can be obtained as a part of the Harrowed set. (Only if you own the DLC)
- He is voiced by the same man as the Blood Minister.
AnonymousI fought him in cathedral ward, when transformed I lured atop the nearby staircase (the one with the two church guys) then climbed the ladder and jumped on the rooftop where the hat for the messangers can be found and whipped him to death, apart from a couple attacks doing this is 100% safe, I finished him with a couple molotovs first try, dunno if anyone has done this before
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I hit jim twice with a heavy attack to his back without talking to him and he just died without transforming
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i Met him, told him to go to chapel, aggro'd him, and died to him. What happens at odeon chapel?
I just knew it wouldn't be a g good idea to send this guy to the church, from the moment i saw his bloody hands I had to pause the game and google it and I was right. LOL.
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I think I've found a sort of, weird glitch when fighting him in the Forbidden Woods upon the rooftop. When I got him positioned near the door (just to the left of it), then hit him, he noclipped through the wall and fell all the way down to his death.
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Ahhh the detail in this game. He's scared of the Snake parasite due to being susceptible to poison in Beast Mode.
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Whoever wrote the directions to the suspicious beggar needs to be kicked in the balls.
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Please direct me to the nearest safe haven. I am normal and can be trusted with civilians
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Just throw this guy of the cliff behind the building in The Forbidden woods. Now you have truly voted out this sussy amogus.
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Now I know why there was poisonous knives on the way, his weakness to poison is just so funny.
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Blimey! Don't scare me like that. On a night like this... I took you for a Sussy Imposter.
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Man i thought he was mourning that body not eating it and sent him to chapel.
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Fun fact I just discovered, you can clearly see which alien is the beggar, he's in the same position and same animation when you find him eating the corpses
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Is it known whether or not he'll disappear even if aggroed at the chapel? I want to do his questline in full but also kill him at the end for the beast rune. It'd be disappointing if I accidentally died to him and he vanishes.
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Here is a headcanon for me when it comes to him: I think that the Beggar is actually a refugee from Ailing Loran before the sands consumed it. And I think that the Beggar is Irreverent Izzy. Think about it, Izzy was a member of the church who became fascinated by the sparks of Darkbeasts, Silverbeasts, and the like, which are rampant in the Ailing Loran dungeons. Be it from his Rune, or some other anomaly that we were never privy to, Izzy has long since become a Beast but has retained his mind long after his transformation, going on to hide among the few Refugees that escaped Loran before the Sands consumed the city. Due to his scientific intuition, the Church came into contact with him from among the few Refugees that arrived in Old Yharnam, and put him to work in their workshop. The Church would have allowed Izzy to study the Beasts for as long as he produced useful tools for the Church, creating the Beast Roar from a Darkbeast and the Beast Blood pellets. But once the Church found out Izzy's true nature and how such tools were made, they immediately branded him and every single tool he has ever produced as Forbidden, which caused him to run with some of his experiments into the Forbidden ruins, where he continued his dark and twisted works on the few people that remained there, creating creatures like the Snake Kings and the Snake Men.
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I wonder if the beast he mentioned when first met was actually a vision same as what the hunter had during blood transfusion?
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I was an idiot and sent him to the Chapel without thinking. Triggered the invincibility glitch, tried every element attack, every weapon, every item I could to no avail. I restarted the game and the PS4, no dice. Went to and from hunters dream a few times, same deal.
What finally worked was doing Exit Game after attacking him however many times, then immediately continuing my game (no restart of game). I spawn next to him instead of at the lantern. I attack him 3x, he transforms. I saved adella at least…
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when slain in Isofkas clinic gives beast rune +50 at the chapel only +25
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Dont know how helpful this is but if you hit him in beggar form with a charged R2 then visceral his back he can go past a small wooden post and get stuck when he transforms. he will still do attacks but after the aoe attack you can run up and bonk him a few times to kill him
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What happens if you send him to the clinic after killing the fake Iosefka?
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Me, a hunter, unloading my handheld mortar (in self defence) on the starving homeless man (clearly a skinwalker) after he asked me for some spare change
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You can also lure him to the cannon after droppingg from the balcony and one shot the beast
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The strategy with the knifes was useful. Didn't get hit once!
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You know what would be hilarious? If you could send him to Old Yharnam, and then he killed Djura.
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It's possible to use the holy moonlight sword to double-thrust visceral the beggar, skipping his transformation and killing him outright.
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The way I think of it, Darkbeasts are people who adamantly despise the eldritch truth. Regular beasts are associated with "stupidity," but Darkbeasts possess an electrical power that directly counters the likes of the Healing Church's kin patients, or even Ebrietas and Rom, which makes me think they're willfully ignorant.
I can't say I blame them, really. Everything that went wrong with the city was because of this impossible endeavor into concepts beyond human reckoning—if there even IS and eldritch truth, or if it would even be tenable.
The only other place we see these blue sparks aside from the Darkbeasts and Archibald's tools, strangely enough, is emanating from the corpse of Kos when the Orphan screams... I wonder if that represents the Orphan's desire to remain hidden from humanity? To keep you ignorant of the secret?
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What happens if you kill iosefka and send him then to her clinic?
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Weird/funny story, I've played before but not ng+ , on my second time I forgot to talk to him, and went back right before wet nurse, he was gone and suprising the old lady (but see didn't have sedatives around) was there instead of by the the church. I went to Iosephkas (I already killed her) checked around and didn't see anything new).
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He has low poison resistance, x2 poison throwing knives will take 3/4 of his hp leaving him easy to finish off.
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Strange story...i took this douchebag to oedon and when i learned he will kill all npc there i wanted kill him but every punch for him was like nothing but after he killed next npc i hitted him (cause i wanted at least punch that douchebag if i cant kill him) but he reacted to that i was surprised i attacked him directly without any buffs etc. Then he turned into monster it took me a while to kill him but i made it at least i saved creepy but nice guy and blonde wh...lady who likes men very much...btw he kills npc every time you kill most powerfull enemy in area for example shadow of yharnam also he killed old lady and lady in black (i forget her name :p) so i guess he kills npc in specific order
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If you sent him to the Chapel and then regret it or want to fight him but he doesn't react to your attacks or has an "invincible glitch" backstab him and he will instantly transform and you will save the rest of the chapel.
I am very surprised that Iosefka can successfully bind this guy down and turn him into a Celestial Being. I don't want to judge this situation too harshly, but wouldn't he just be able to transform while on the operating table?
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you must have an 50 iq and lower if you send this guy to the chapel i mean he is sitting near corpses covered in blood
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His monologue is really intriguing though. Was Djura right? Are beasts sentient? Are hunters really the lesser evil compared to beasts? It's not like you're actually saving anyone throughout the night, everyone in the chapel goes crazy or dies, the exception being the chapel dweller, who was already there and thus would have been fine anyway
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Anybody know if the order he kills the survivors in is completely random? Or is it in the order you sent them to the safe place or something like that?
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Sending him to Iosefka is boring, and sending him to odeon is very counterproductive so killing him right there is the best idea. At least i thought so.
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Too bad you can’t send him to Old Yharnam. He and Djura would’ve got along just fine.
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Yeah, when I was going through the Forbidden Forest, I saw this guy and instantly attacked because I thought he was an enemy... wasn't prepared for his to turn into a beast .
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I didn’t know he was gonna kill my friends, and the old lady, I should’ve known he was no good given the pool of blood he was in
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I sent every npc, save the skeptical man, to Ieosefka's Clinic; There, he killed the skeptical man and then the chapel dweller. Attacking him directly after his final murder yielded no results, and going back to the hub to "refresh" Cathedral ward only led to the beggar's sudden and unexplained disapearence. Is he simply gone from the game or is there a place he goes after everyone is dead?
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Was talking to him at the chapel and a Snatcher attacked us both, transforming him into the beast. Nonetheless it surprised both of us as he took the Snatcher out with ease and I eventually finished him off!
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Just learned that if you trigger his transformation outside Oedon Chapel and refrain from killing him, he will remain in that spot even after defeating Rom and will transform back into a beast whenever you return. Prompting transformation does not stop him from eating other NPC's, though. However, I'd consider it a fair trade-off now that I can lead him throughout the Cathedral Ward, pitting him against anything in my way with the use of a Shaman Bone Blade :)
"One sick puppy..." Buddy, if only you knew the length of my leash.
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I just instakilled him before his transformation by using a visceral attack. He didn’t change or anything. Is there a downside to this?
"You call ME a beast? A Beast!? What would you know? I didn't ask for this!"
- This line is disturbing.
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Does anyone else let Adella into the chapel then invite the suspicious beggar and let him kill her then kill him and invite the skeptical man? I mean Adella is the only one I hate.
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I like to pretend that this guy actually is Archibald, the Darkbeast-obsessed scholar. Do I have evidence to back this up? Not really. But is there any reason NOT to think so?
It's also fun to believe that the Witch of Hemwick is Caryll, considering her proximity to the Rune Workshop Extractor.
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I sent him to his death on the roof. Didn't feel bad about it.
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"It is also a known fact the beasts were once humans..."
No*****.
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So I tried to kill him in the forbidden woods. It freaked me out to see him transform into this giant boss of a beast! So he kicks my ass and I'm like "Okay, I'll just leave him alone until I'm stronger." I went ahead and beat Rom and decided to come back for round 2. Much to my disappointment, attacking him without killing basically equates to withholding information, so he just peaces out once the blood moon triggers. :/
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If he is sent to Cathedral Ward he becomes invincible. No matter how much you attack him he will not become hostile or transform.
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Anyone else notice that the first Trivia is fairly similar to Tokyo Ghoul?
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This guy scared the living snot out of me. I wish i had been more suprised tho. All the lessages kind of gave the suprise away. Its only my 1st play through also, which sucks. But ive made it this far atleast!
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If you cant figure out that he is a beast while he is eating fresh corpses in the forest than you've either been blinded by Eye Collectors gouging your eyes out, or were a victim of repeated Brainsucker Attacks until you had 70 or lower IQ left...
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I just killed him the very first time I met him. I figured anybody eating corpses cannot be anything else but a beast. Granted I was surprised when he turned but I managed to beat him without too much trouble nonetheless.
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he turns in to a giant werewolf that kinda resembles the Cleric Beast. he's really tough but you can run back in to the entryway and if you have the vials and bullets for it you can burn him with the flamethrower while taking some hits
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I sent im to Iosefka's Clinic but the old lady still died, so I am wondering if it is supposed to happen or if it was a bug.
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I told him about iosefka's clinic, and then killed hi and got the rune. went to iosefka and she still acts as if i had sent her somebody. btw hes the first one i ascend to reassure u.
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knew this guy was going to pull a yurt as soon as i found him
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He's gone from the front of the chapel, have I lost him for this playthrough?
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When I first met him I had nowhere to send him so I just left him, after finding out he was evil I went back there to kill him and found 3 bodies there and he is now gone. Did he go elsewhere? I've never sent anyone anywhere so I'm confused
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May this guy be the key for beasthood transformation? I'll let him kill any npc in ng plus and see what happens.
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So in my game I attacked him, not knowing he was an npc, and then ran away pissing my pants when he transformed. When I came back he was gone, but he still murdered the old lady. I don't know where he went just thought someone might find it helpful.
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I was unaware that he was the one killing my NPC's! I lost the old lady and the nun my first play thru. I had no idea he could turn into the beast until that grave-robber monster that steals you away came up to me and tried to attack me and accidentally hit this guy too. he then proceeds to transform into said beast as I stumble backwards in a daze after that first hit.
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Could this be a reference to Little Red Riding Hood ? I mean : we have a beast that is almost a Wolf, an Old lady killed by it, a woman in red that offers something, a hunter who kills the beast... This could be an interesting theory but mostly not connected to the Lores.
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I invited him to stay at the chapel in the off chance he was actually a friendly NPC, but the fact that he stays outside the chapel to avoid the incense was a red flag. But hey, I don't trust the Oeden Chapel guy at first either. He's still the creepiest of any of the NPCs.
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The guide says he will die slowly, but actually he doesn't. His health bar doesn't even reduced
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i killed iosefka and told him to go to her clinic...what happens now?
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his dialogue suggest he did not want to be be a beat and the hunter is evil for killing him but as soon as you send him to the chapel he kills someone, does he expect anyone to show him mercy if he is CHOOSING to kill people and not even trying to be good.
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is there any way for everyone including the old lady to survive?
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Not sure if I was bugged or what. Everyone was was alive before I fought Rom. Right after I beat Rom everyone was dead. He definitely didn't pick them off one by one. Guess I'll just bring the pain to him next play through.
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i never found him. i went today at the windmill and i have found the three dead bodies but he wasn't there. i'm a lot forward in the game i already killed yosefka and the old lady(i asked her for sedatives and she died right out the chapel), arianna is sick but he isn't out the chapel. when i went to yosefka i slain 2 blue monster but no one drop me a rune. anyone say something about where he is?
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Djura's dialogue doesn't suggest the beasts were once humans, it suggests they ARE humans. You are asleep, the hunters dream catches you before you wake and sends you back to slumber. In reality its not you hunting the beasts in the street, its that you are a mad sleepwalker hunting the humans in the streets. Just take the enemy mobs for example, they have pitchforks and torches and walk around in mobs. THEY are the ones hunting you! The FIRST ending is perhaps the BEST ending in that you wake up and regain your humanity. Notice you wake up what appears to be wondering the streets. However this would suggest you are some sort of reject for the treatment.
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Anyone else find it strange that he actually retains his sanity, intelligence, and speech in his beast form. Hell, he can even control when he wants to transform (or possibly may just be an instinct when you attack him). I don't recall any other person who has the ability, Gascoigne and every other person infected by the scourge were all mindless and blood-thirsty. I think this sort of proves that beast ARE humans as said by Djura, and you may just be a schizophrenic madman killing every human (beast) you find.
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Did anyone get his exact dialogue? I was too busy being murdered to hear it. (In my defense, i was prepared for a scourge beast, not an abhorrent beast)
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an alien what, he just injected himself some old blood and bam?
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He can't go inside the chapel so just lure him to the threshold and hit him from the inside
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If you happen to kill Iosefka before the Paleblood Moon hangs low, it seems that sending him to the clinic will still turn him into a Celestial Mob even though she is dead. FromSoft must've not taken into account that you could kill her before actually sending any survivors to safe places. As it is, any survivor you send to the Clinic will become a Jello Head, regardless of whether or not Fake Iosefka is alive.
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This guy obvious Beast transformed but by the game lore/story, Oedon Chapel supposed to be safe ward which prevent beasts from getting in the chapel. Somehow, this guy just walk in and kill NPC(s). How come? its not making sense, its probably developer overlooks?
I'm on NG +1 and encountered him on the rootop in the Forsaken Woods. I was able to successfully attack and aggro him and escaped back through the hallway that lead to the roof. While there, I used 20 poison knives and I was only able to get his health down to about half way. Did anyone else experience this or is his health pool really that big on NG+? Even hitting him with ~10 molotovs barely did anything to him, and I watched each one successfully hit him. Did FromSoftware realize that people were using this strategy and patched it?
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