Beasthunter Saif


Imprints (Normal)


Imprints (Uncanny)


Imprints (Lost)

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Requirements & Scaling
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Beasthunter Saif is a Trick Weapon in Bloodborne. It was added with The Old Hunters expansion. There are 3 versions of this weapon: Normal, Uncanny and Lost. The only known differences being the Gem Imprints and the locations in which they are found.

" A trick weapon used by the old hunters.
A second blade is found inside the curve of the main one. In its initial form the saif can be wielded like a long curved sword, but when transformed, its blade is contracted allowing for quick, repeated stabs.

Allthough this trick weapon allows for adaptive combat, it was later replaced by saws and similar weapons that were more effective at disposing of beasts."

Beasthunter Saif Information

  • Transforms from a curved long sword to a short weapon like the Saw Cleaver
  • Requires ?? Blood Stone Shards and ?? Blood Echoes to fully upgrade
  • To perform a Leap Attack, tap forward on the Left Stick as you press R2
  • To perform a Transformation Attack, press L1 while performing another attack.



  • The Hunter's Nightmare. After the Blood River, when you pass through the cave with a tick, where you encounter two dogs and the large amount of crows along with an enemy Beast Cutter hunter. Climb the ladder on the left of the pit and instead of going forward, turn to the left and drop down the ledge. There will be a single piece of loot guarded by a Saif Hunter.

Uncanny Beasthunter Saif

  • If you have the normal version: Create Glyph 8i29rqz3 (Pthumeru Labyrinth) and buy from Bath Messengers up a ladder from the main room for 16,000 Blood Echoes.

Lost Beasthunter Saif

  • If you have the normal version: Create Glyph 8i29rqz3 (Pthumeru Labyrinth) and buy from Bath Messengers up a ladder from the main room for 16,000 Blood Echoes.

Player Notes

  • Its shortened form has a quick lunging attack as it's first R1, making it useful for PvP or agility-focused builds, or closing-in after dodging boss attacks. The transformed dash R1 and regular R2 also has a slightly further step forward compared to most weapons. This allows successive, aggressive, gap-closing attacks. Although the lunge deos not reset when the combo is done, so R1 spamming won't launch you forward every 4 attacks
  • Transforming from the curved sword form to the shortened version will perform a quick gap closing attack, lunging you forward to "close" the weapon
  • Transforming from the shortened to the curved sword, however, will perform a disengaging attack, dodging backwards.
  • Unlike the Saw Cleaver and Saw Spear, the Saif actually flips directions when transforming. In both modes, the same blade on the outer edge is used to attack, while the saw weapons uses different blades in different modes. The few times the inner edge is used is the untransformed dash R1, the intial transformation attack and the untransformed and uncharged R2.
  • Though the transformed form fights a lot like the saw blades, it is not serrated and therefore does no extra damage to beasts and has a thrust attack on R2.
  • It's transformation is flipped compared to the other Saw weapons, as it's extended form is default.
  • The first attack is an uppercut, making it perfect for making books fly everywhere




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Movesets & Videos

Regular Moveset
Move Damage Type & Modifier Stamina Effect
R1 Combo 1.00x, 1.02x, 1.04x, 1.05x ?? Slow, overhead swipes with wide arcs, with altering directions after the 2nd swipe.
Quickstep R1 .91x ?? ~ ?? A diagonal sweep from bottom right to top left.
Dash R1 1.09x ?? (+run) Uses the inner blade to deliver a diagonal swipe from top right to bottom left. Somewhat short and narrow range.
R2 Attack 1.32x ?? A wide, horizontal swipe from right to left.
Charged 1.63x ?? The character does a clockwise 360 turn and delivers an overhead smash to the ground, downing most enemies while delivering blunt damage. (to confirm)
Backstep R2 1.18x    
Dodge .91x ??  
Dash 1.36x ??  
Leap 1.36x ?? (+run)  
Transform Attack 1.045x ?? (+x) The character takes a large step forward while performing a sweeping attack from right to left with the Saif swinging shut.
Transformed Moveset
Move Damage Type & Modifier Stamina Effect
R1 Combo .85x, .89x, .91x, .91x ?? An upwards lunge attack from right to left, followed by swipes from altering directions similar to the untransformed Saw Cleaver and Saw Spear. Slightly slower than the saw weapons, but still fast when compared to other weapons. There is a slight delay before the first lunge that becomes noticeable when hit-trading.
Quickstep R1 .91x ?? ~ ?? An upwards lunge attack similar to the initial transformed R1, but with a shorter lunge.
Backstep R1 .91x    
Dash R1 1.00x ?? (+run) The character moves forward with quick, large steps and attacks with a right to left swipe.
R2 Attack 1.18x ?? Attacks with a forward thrust with the tip of the Saif, with a forward lunge.
Backstep R2 1.13x    
Charged R2 1.45x ?? Slams the Saif to the ground, knocking most enemies down and causing blunt (to confirm) damage.
Dodge R2 ?? ??  
Dash R2 1.27x ?? (+run)  
Leap 1.27x ??  
Transform Attack 1.00x ?? (+x) Transforms the Saif back to untransformed mode by sweeping the weapon from left to right, while the character dodges backwards.



The word "saif" is Arabic for sword.

    • 29 Jan 2017 18:30  

      Getting this thing motivated me to go through the awful chore of farming Bloodstone Chunks. I still haven't upgraded it fully but its speed totally makes up for it so far. Can't wait to see how I fare with it when it's +10. Yeah, there's no serration, but I used the Threaded Cane and Burial Blade up to this point, so I'm used to not having it.

      • 29 Dec 2016 00:51  

        Hardest enemies encountered through my NG+2 run:
        1. Orphan of Kos
        2. The ************************ who guards this weapon.
        3. Everyone else. I really don't even recall.
        For real, this guy drove me up the wall.

        • 19 Dec 2016 21:43  

          The greatest strength for the saif seems to be it's ability to lock enemies in a combo chain, whether transformed or no. Non-transformed, it's heavy swings tend to lock larger enemies in its range, causing them to recoil just enough for more and more combos. Even Gascoigne didn't stand a chance against it, last I fought him. As for the retracted form, faster creatures like the scourge beasts and the bloodlickers are totally powerless. The only drawback is its lack of serration, but it's not exactly necessary when you can fill out a chain, retreat, rinse and repeat.

          Now if only it's blood gem fortification game was a bit stronger...

          • 09 Dec 2016 22:23  

            Extremely agile and deadly to a fault, this weapons is an extremely viable hit and run weapon when transformed however the lack of a serated edge leaves it wanting in say, bosses like the bloodstarved beast (assuming anyone still does the flamesprayer spam strategy). players should keep in mind that transformed it has a slower swing speed compared to the saw cleaver's transformed mode, and will be the cause of many deaths without practice. To the hunter willing to put the time and effort into fortifying and getting used to the unusual moveset it's an extremely viable pvp and pve weapon for those who are experenced with bloodborne, but may not be skilled enough to try some of the more difficult weapons

            • Workable on an arcane build?30 Aug 2016 23:37  

              I absolutely love this weapon, but it doesn't really fit into the builds of any of my characters. I am also REALLY digging the Logarius wheel on my arcane character, and was thinking that this thing would fills in the holes of the wheel's moveset pretty nicely. I know it wouldn't be top-tier damage, but if I tossed some bolt or fire gems into this thing, would it's damage output be high enough to be workable as my secondary weapon?

              • no messengers, but patches24 Jul 2016 13:26  

                So I went to dungeon 8i29rqz3, and instead of there being the bath messengers, patches was there instead. It would seem that once you befriend patches he replaces the bath messengers in dungeons, and his items don't cost anymore than buying it from the dungeon messengers.

                • Movesets05 Jul 2016 08:49  

                  The moveset of this weapon in my opinion, makes the most aggressive weapon. The style and utility of its attacks are perfect. This weapon is Bloodborne Incarnate.

                  • the real skill cleaver05 Jul 2016 08:49  

                    dont get me wrong the saw spear is fantastic, but the saif outclasses it almost every aspect, its so fast and has so much lunge, this thing is going to be a beast in pvp

                    • Tough choices05 Jul 2016 08:49  

                      I'm in love with this thing's moveset. It feels like it has all the aggression and pressure that was Blade of Mercy's potential without the limitation of such short range. However, I'm hesitant to commit to it over BoM because I haven't come to a conclusion on two things: 1) Is the B Skill and C Arcane scaling from S and B worthwhile when I'm a skill build that gives arcane the time of day and 2) yeah, the moveset has the range BoM was lacking, but I already had Burial Blade at the ready to cover for it. They work so well together that I kind of don't want to break up the pair. <br/>I'm probably just indecisive and afraid of change and need to accept this rad new weapon, but I'm curious. How much and in what ways do you think the Saif is better than BoM, and what weapon would you say covers the Saif's shortcomings like BB does for BoM? Is there one? Would you just keep BB at the ready?

                      • Such weak damage mods in transformed?05 Jul 2016 08:49  

                        Why do all the transformed attacks have a damage mod lower than 1x? I really love the move-set on this weapon and would take this over saw cleaver if the mods didn't suck the way they do...Cleavers transform attack mods are 1.3x even PLUS serrated.

                        • Has anyone noticed this?05 Jul 2016 08:49  

                          It seems that both the saif and the whirligig saw deal both blunt AND thrusting damage! I can see how the saw could be one or the other in tricked/untricked form, but how the saif could do both seems ungodly! This weapon is insane.

                          • Well... this is interesting.05 Jul 2016 08:49  

                            You can find both the Uncanny Version and Lost Version of this weapon and ALL dlc weapons in the Hintertomb chalice where you get the Madman's set (The third and last floor is where this is found). All of this can be found in a messenger fountain in an up-the-latter room within a small room.

                            • Added comments.05 Jul 2016 08:49  

                              Added some moveset descriptions and notes, but I'm not familiar with the untransformed mode (for obvious reasons). Will come back to it after a while. BTW, I can't seem to get back my password for the forum with the normal link, anyone know how I can get it back?

                              • Beasthunter? Nope!05 Jul 2016 08:49  

                                This is the ultimate weapon of Hunter of Hunters, sorry BoM, sorry Chikage, sorry LHB, sorry BB... This weapon has speed, this weapon has range, this weapon is powerfull! This isn't a tool for killing beasts this is for hunters!

                                • So how much extra damage are we talking with a B Scaling?05 Jul 2016 08:49  

                                  Is that worth putting points into Skill or is the scaling negligible? Can it be used as simple base damage like the Saw Cleaver?

                                  • Incorrect note05 Jul 2016 08:49  

                                    The page states that the inner edge is used only for dashing r1. This is incorrect. If you observe closely, the inner edge is used in the transformation attack for both forms. The blade to snapped shut when tricking, then when reverting back to standard, the moment of the swing pulls the cleaver apart. Opening in the other manner wouldn't make sense, the blade would need to have more acceleration than the hilt to whip itself open if trying to open using the outer blade. This could only happen at the end of the swing, not at the beginning. Thus it must be the inner edge.

                                    • Transformation05 Jul 2016 08:49  

                                      I was wondering how does this thing actually change forms do you like hold it in a different way or does the blade twist around when transforming back to sword mode?.

                                      • Not there05 Jul 2016 08:49  

                                        I performed the chalice ritual as directed, and the bath messengers had nothing but, normal items for sale. I did however manage to find an uncanny saw-cleaver in one of the crypts.

                                        • Arcane05 Jul 2016 08:49  

                                          hi guys. can somebody explain me one thing about Beasthunter Saif, it says it scales with arcane, but when I add points to arcane, damage stats remain the same. how does it work??

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